I am just plain lazy today ;-D - I need some info from latex buyers/users
Jan 10, 2010 4:14 PM
Location: L.A. area
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I know I could do a search. I know I've done so before. Right now I am just soooo not in the mood to go back and look for and read latex info.

I want to buy 1" or 2" of Dunlop latex (because I've slept on Talalay and never Dunlop; want to try the Dunlop). Can someone remind me who has it cheapest? I know I investigated this 4-5 months ago but I have completely forgotten.

I took all memory foam out of my mattress last night and slept better than I have in weeks. Still woke up with a sore back, but much better. The only other time I tried it without the memory foam was when I used 2 x 1" of my soft latex and I think that was too much soft foam for me. Now I'm back to 1" of soft latex without the memory foam and it's better, but I do guess that my HR foam has crapped out, so time to replace it with latex.

What ILD do you recommend for my bottom layer(s) over my springs? When my bed was working for me, I only had 1" of HR foam over the springs so I am guessing that should do it with the latex as well. I think the ILD I used was about 32, so with Dunlop I might want to go with 28? or would that be too soft? (as I recall, Dunlop is naturally firmer than Talalay so you use a lower ILD, no?) Also, I'm not sure - maybe I can find this in my receipt somewhere - the HR foam might have been as high as 36ILD. I had 3 ILD's one firm, one medium and one very firm, and I used the medium sometimes and the firm sometimes, but don't recall the exact ILD's.
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Re: I am just plain lazy today ;-D - I need some info from latex buyers/users
Reply #47 Jan 15, 2010 10:24 PM
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BBB "Membership" is pretty expensive for essentially no benefit to small business.  So long as a company doesn't have a poor record with them, I wouldn't read into it too much. Customer reviews however in general I think hold a lot more value. 
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Reply #48 Jan 16, 2010 12:18 AM
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Jim, Rockymountain mattress also has 1" 100% natural Talalay and dunlop toppers (also 2,3,4").  32 and 24 ILD in Talalay, 26 and 17 in dunlop.  Not clear who makes it.  Says free shipping for limited time.   That is another option for you if you want to pass on sleepez.

http://www.rockymountainmattress.com/talalaylatextoppermediumfirm-p-87.html

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Reply #49 Jan 16, 2010 12:26 AM
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I read at sleeplikeabear website you can order natural latex from them, they order from LI.  They only stock blended talalay.  Don't know the price however, not posted on their website.
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Reply #50 Jan 16, 2010 3:24 AM
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TJ said: "eagle2...I agree with you.  And I did think carefully about it."

I hope I did not come across overly harsh in my comments. It's just that I have never seen anything, that I can recall, were SleepEZ had taken advantage of anyone. From everything I have been able to gather they seem to be a quite legitimate company.

I even considered them for a while once I had decided that I was not going to purchase from Savvy Rest. It came down to SleepEZ less expensive price, or FlowBeds more liberal exchange policy. Plus the fact that FlowBeds had never had a complaint filed against them with the BBB. I am retired and living on Social Security so $3000, or thereabouts, is a lot of money for me and "my better half". So FlowBeds was my choice because when I'm spending this kind of money I wanted to make darn sure that I was completely satisfied with the bed. Were it not for that fact I would probably have purchased from SleepEZ since they are less money and most folks on this forum seem to like them.
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Reply #51 Jan 17, 2010 2:03 AM
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eagle2 wrote:
TJ said: "eagle2...I agree with you.  And I did think carefully about it."

I hope I did not come across overly harsh in my comments. It's just that I have never seen anything, that I can recall, were SleepEZ had taken advantage of anyone. From everything I have been able to gather they seem to be a quite legitimate company.

I even considered them for a while once I had decided that I was not going to purchase from Savvy Rest. It came down to SleepEZ less expensive price, or FlowBeds more liberal exchange policy. Plus the fact that FlowBeds had never had a complaint filed against them with the BBB. I am retired and living on Social Security so $3000, or thereabouts, is a lot of money for me and "my better half". So FlowBeds was my choice because when I'm spending this kind of money I wanted to make darn sure that I was completely satisfied with the bed. Were it not for that fact I would probably have purchased from SleepEZ since they are less money and most folks on this forum seem to like them.

Eagle2, when you say, "most folks on this forum seem to like them", who are you speaking of? I am not doubting you, I am just asking because I did a half-fast search and didn't find anyone really recommending SleepEZ. Since I haven't been following a lot of latex threads the past year or so you are probably more in a position to know. I hope it is true that people have found them a good company to buy from, because come Monday, I may do so in spite of my reservations based on their sketchy phone answering.

$200 is a lot for me to spend right now, and I want to make sure I'm getting a quality product.
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Reply #52 Jan 17, 2010 2:13 AM
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sandman wrote:
Jim, Rockymountain mattress also has 1" 100% natural Talalay and dunlop toppers (also 2,3,4").  32 and 24 ILD in Talalay, 26 and 17 in dunlop.  Not clear who makes it.  Says free shipping for limited time.   That is another option for you if you want to pass on sleepez.

http://www.rockymountainmattress.com/talalaylatextoppermediumfirm-p-87.html


Thanks for the link! I'm still deciding...
But SleepEz has their price beat just a little with the $49 shipping per order - I think the 1" latex is about $70 each so that's $140 +49 = $189 vs. this one at $115 + 115 = $230.

But I do appreciate having the option because if I don't get through to SleepEZ on Monday I may just decide to dump them.
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Reply #53 Jan 17, 2010 8:03 AM
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Jim said: "Eagle2, when you say, "most folks on this forum seem to like them", who are you speaking of? I am not doubting you, I am just asking because I did a half-fast search and didn't find anyone really recommending SleepEZ. Since I haven't been following a lot of latex threads the past year or so you are probably more in a position to know. I hope it is true that people have found them a good company to buy from, because come Monday, I may do so in spite of my reservations based on their sketchy phone answering.

$200 is a lot for me to spend right now, and I want to make sure I'm getting a quality product."

Jim I am principally referring to the archival area of this board. Most of the positive comments came from several years ago, although there has been some more recent ones, the best I can remember.

But then times change and we are going through quite a down turn in the national economy, so possibly SleepEZ may have changed somewhat. I just do not know. But then again the complaints that you are registering about them, not returning your calls, is the first that I recall hearing about.
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Reply #54 Jan 17, 2010 12:14 PM
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Jim, it looks like Rockymountain would be slightly cheaper for 1 piece, but sleepez is cheaper if you buy 2.   Rockymountain told me that Latex Green makes their latex toppers.  That would make sense for the dunlop, but as far as I know they do not make 100% natural talalay.  So, they would have to be pressed on that issue.  Does anyone know the quality of Latex Green?
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Reply #55 Jan 17, 2010 12:55 PM
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latex green only makes natural dunlop, it is very good quality rubber.  Natura now uses them exclusively for their natural latex cores, with exception of a few mattresses they top with natural talalay from LI.  I posted up a PDF link to Eco-Institut's strict testing protocol for unsafe chemicals like VOC's and CFC's as well as remaining 'filler' content in another thread.  If a company has a recent certification from these guys then they ARE making a very good quality natural latex.

http://www.eco-institut.de/e35/e79/e39029/e39050/e39132/index_ger.html

Sorry their website is a mixture of broken German and English, made it plenty of fun to find their list of companies certified but Latex Green is on there.
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Reply #56 Jan 17, 2010 3:33 PM
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jimsocal wrote:
Thanks for the link! I'm still deciding...
But SleepEz has their price beat just a little with the $49 shipping per order - I think the 1" latex is about $70 each so that's $140 +49 = $189 vs. this one at $115 + 115 = $230.

But I do appreciate having the option because if I don't get through to SleepEZ on Monday I may just decide to dump them.

Monday is a holiday.  I called them last week and had no trouble getting through.

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