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going to put this on my Costco/Sleep Science Latex bed and see what happens...The Latex is the right firmness but I am spoiled by the plush feel of the Bellafina Temp... cant put link here dont know how to put link here, costco, type in toppers, click on RIGHT TEMP MATTRESS TOPPER This message was modified Feb 3, 2010 by randys
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sandman wrote: My main concern would be that it is 3". I wish they would sell that in 1" increments. I used a 2" Costco topper for several years and I was pretty happy with it. Not sure if it the same manufacturer. I am kind of like you in that I don't find 100% latex totally satisfying, I prefer a little plusher feel from a bit of memory foam. Maybe because there is no "push back" from memory foam. The drawback is that you can lose support, the more memory foam have. I wish there was a high quality 5lb. or higher breathable memory foam sold in 1" increments. Haven't really found that yet. Hope it works for you! Sandman, have you ever tried 1" of SOFT latex on top - 24ILD or less? I do not like the feel of latex but I think my soft piece feels good and provides some support. I keep repeating this because I don't assume everyone follows all my posts, but I do not know WHAT ILD my piece is because I got it on a trip to a foam warehouse - it was just laying there and I asked if I could buy it. They knew not what it was. But I will also say that putting a topper over the latex - like my wool topper - also helps it. The key is having enough support to start with, I think. My mattress before was not giving me enough support (this is my theory, I can't prove it!  ) and that is why my wool topper was not working for me before. Now that I have good support on all the other layers, the wool topper works for me and it does help cancel some of the feeling of the latex that I don't like.As to memory foam, I have heard good things about Venus foam for years but have never found any. Even the overstock.com fake Venus was expensive so the real stuff must be REALLY expensive. But it's supposed to be 8lb and I am curious to try it. (LIke I say, I'm not messing with my mattress any time soon, but maybe I'm a mattress surgery addict - much like those women that keep having surgery on their face until you no longer recognize them! - and I can't help but want to try Venus foam some day!  ) |
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Yes, I have a tried 1" of 24 ILD latex and 1" of 15 (?) ILD Celsion latex. I was not totally satisfied with the feel, but I guess perfection is a dangerous goal. Maybe 1" was not enough. Is you wool topper wool inside of cotton (pad type) or the wool fleece type? I tried a snugfleece that was sort of a pile type (carpet like), and I did not really like the feel. I may try at some point the wool in cotton pad. I am not totally sure what thickness to get. I think it has to be thick enough to have some impact, but not so thick it changes the feel totally. I saw Walmart has an organic 1.5" in cotton for a decent price (not totally sure on quality though). They also have 3", but I think that would be too much. Amazon has Natura (regular and comfort plus) and Gaiim (?). Plus many other brands out there. |
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it came with a paper wrapping, and a plastic over that at first i thought i had to leave the paper on but dont think so, took it off, it wasnt attached now it is flattening and so on, will be able to try tonite |
Wow Randys, that looks nice! Can't wait to hear how it feels and if it does indeed stay cool. Thank you for the link, and the coming review |
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Hey Jim - the LINK function on here does work OK. Here's how to do it. When you are making or editing a post, make sure the editing toolbar is showing, click on the little 'world' icon that show a chain link on it(its the one on the left), when that pops up insert you link, but make sure the http:// is NOT included in the string as you will see to the left of where you enter the url, the http is already there. You might have to arrow over and remove this, or be certain when you are copying the URL that the http:// is not included. The link to the Costco memory foam pad is HERE OK, my thoughts on this..... Why would you put a 3" piece of memory foam over your newly purchased latex bed? To me this is bad on a number of levels that I won't get into..... Is it too hard? If so, make absolutely sure you have the soft side up. Still too firm? Then first, try something like the Costco Cuddlebed, only about $50 shipped with that great Costco warranty, this is a wonderful product. It will give just about an inch of extra softness to the mattress and may be just enough to take the edge off and be soft enough for the side sleepers. Still too hard? Then if it was me, I would buy a latex topper from FBM, and I'd probably get the 2" rather than the 1". The queen sized 'soft' shipped is $151. Great product for the money.... I know because I have one. That's what I would do. One or both of these would soften it up enough for most anyone. If these didn't do it, you might be one of the people who just can't do latex and should look to a good innerspring mattress. My 2 cents. |
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Bill, Is it possible for a person to not be able to sleep on solid? I have never been so unhappy in all my life and I feel as if I continue at this pace I will be crippled BY MY BED! I have read weeks of posts and all say air is no good. I beg to differ with that consesus. I have been sleeping on air, a high-end, remote control Areo bed for over 15 years and after messing with 12 nights of foam I am done. |
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BillB wrote: Hey Jim - the LINK function on here does work OK. Here's how to do it. When you are making or editing a post, make sure the editing toolbar is showing, click on the little 'world' icon that show a chain link on it(its the one on the left), when that pops up insert you link, but make sure the http:// is NOT included in the string as you will see to the left of where you enter the url, the http is already there. You might have to arrow over and remove this, or be certain when you are copying the URL that the http:// is not included. The link to the Costco memory foam pad is HERE OK, my thoughts on this..... Why would you put a 3" piece of memory foam over your newly purchased latex bed? To me this is bad on a number of levels that I won't get into..... Is it too hard? If so, make absolutely sure you have the soft side up. Still too firm? Then first, try something like the Costco Cuddlebed, only about $50 shipped with that great Costco warranty, this is a wonderful product. It will give just about an inch of extra softness to the mattress and may be just enough to take the edge off and be soft enough for the side sleepers. Still too hard? Then if it was me, I would buy a latex topper from FBM, and I'd probably get the 2" rather than the 1". The queen sized 'soft' shipped is $151. Great product for the money.... I know because I have one. That's what I would do. One or both of these would soften it up enough for most anyone. If these didn't do it, you might be one of the people who just can't do latex and should look to a good innerspring mattress. My 2 cents. Bill, thanks for link help, plus tell me how you rename the link to HERE, i use to know how but forgot, thanks as to why put this on my latex, well, i have a tempurpedic bellafina, almost $4k with tax and so on, and as plush as it is, my back hurts after about 5 hours on it, the latex bed feels springy and similar to spring bed, to me the feel of the temp is plush, etc., so I want to have the best off both worlds, thus the foam on top of the latex, we will see how it works or doesn't...good thing is both are from costco so return is a snap, i just call them and they come pick em up i will consider the fbm deal if this doesnt do it, the link name change, i thought you could right click and get properties and do that, but confused the point of the price is i think you get what you pay for when it comes to foam and temp is the best, but darnit if i dont have pain This message was modified Feb 4, 2010 by randys
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sandman wrote: Yes, I have a tried 1" of 24 ILD latex and 1" of 15 (?) ILD Celsion latex. I was not totally satisfied with the feel, but I guess perfection is a dangerous goal. Maybe 1" was not enough. Is you wool topper wool inside of cotton (pad type) or the wool fleece type? I tried a snugfleece that was sort of a pile type (carpet like), and I did not really like the feel. I may try at some point the wool in cotton pad. I am not totally sure what thickness to get. I think it has to be thick enough to have some impact, but not so thick it changes the feel totally. I saw Walmart has an organic 1.5" in cotton for a decent price (not totally sure on quality though). They also have 3", but I think that would be too much. Amazon has Natura (regular and comfort plus) and Gaiim (?). Plus many other brands out there. My wool topper is fluffy wool inside of a cotton cover. We had a king with our king sized flobeds so after we switched to 2 x twins due to my wife's restless legs syndrome, we couldn't use the topper any more. Finally I just cut it down the middle with scissors and am still procrastinating getting someone to sew it. But it's about 2" thick but if you squeeze it with your hand it goes down to 1/4-1/2". The way they made it, it seems not to "bunch" inside. Right now I'm loving it. I don't think the feel of it is that noticeable - it's very subtle probably for most people. But I think it does insulate me from that "right on latex feel" that I'm not wild about. I think if you get the fluffy kind you might be okay with 3" but the more "solid" type, you'd probably want no more than an inch or so. They're probably not returnable, being bedding, so I'd try to buy one that you can feel and touch before you buy it. |
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jimsocal wrote: My wool topper is fluffy wool inside of a cotton cover. We had a king with our king sized flobeds so after we switched to 2 x twins due to my wife's restless legs syndrome, we couldn't use the topper any more. Finally I just cut it down the middle with scissors and am still procrastinating getting someone to sew it. But it's about 2" thick but if you squeeze it with your hand it goes down to 1/4-1/2". The way they made it, it seems not to "bunch" inside. Right now I'm loving it. I don't think the feel of it is that noticeable - it's very subtle probably for most people. But I think it does insulate me from that "right on latex feel" that I'm not wild about. I think if you get the fluffy kind you might be okay with 3" but the more "solid" type, you'd probably want no more than an inch or so. They're probably not returnable, being bedding, so I'd try to buy one that you can feel and touch before you buy it. Let's see if I can do this: the link to CostCo topper is HERE. [see my other post below as to how I had to make this link] Is it possible they just recently fixed this? I swear I have tried it before and done it exactly the same way and it never worked! Anyway, I would recommend buying 2 x 1" layers at FBM or wherever instead of 1 x 2" layer. More options. Also I would consider buying one medium and one soft. My mattress is all good right now, but I would really love to just TRY one of those FBM 20ILD latex toppers! I am confused by FBM's toppper page, though. It talks about Talalay vs. "standard" latex and it says it's "100% natural" but does that mean it's absolutely not blended latex? I guess it means it's not a blend, right? I too think 3" of memory foam is a mistake. I have yet to see memory foam that does not wear out too quickly so you'll no doubt end up with no support and a sore back from 3" of it. I think 1-2" can sometimes work depending on the person but 3" rarely. Even 5-6" or whatever can work for some - thus Tempurpedic is still around. But I think for anyone with support issues, memory foam more than a couple inches is too much. Personally even 1" doesn't seem to work for me but I think 1" of real Venus foam MIGHT work for me because it is supposed to be more dense and a higher quality than others. This message was modified Feb 4, 2010 by jimsocal
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