Latex Questions/Troubles
| I bought a latex foam mattress that was amazing in the store. After I got it home, it started to "break in", in the terms of the Bed Store Owner. It got softer in spots and felt lumpy and uneven. I had not been told the bed would not feel like it did in the store - I thought that was the point of a latex mattress!!! Needless to say, I am disappointed and not sure I can trust the store I bought it from. Did they deliver me a cheaper bed than I had bought thinking I might not notice? Or is the latex they used possibly inferior/defective? Or did they just not tell me the whole story when I bought it and the latex mattress does indeed break in and, according to the store, softens about 25% when being broken in? I spent way more money than I had originally intended, and all I want is the mattress I thought I was buying!! Any thoughts? |
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I do prefer the Dunlop and I also agree the blended Talatech is a superior product. The "all natural" talalay seems too fragile. My concern about the Talatech is that it seems like a lot of people here had problems getting the talalay to feel firm enough and that the Talatech mattresses we tried around here felt too :jiggly" (for lack of a better word). My husband's back tightened up on the talalay beds he tried here so we took a chance on Dunlop. So far we are very happy with the Dunlop mattress we purchased. It is the right firmness without "pushing back" like the talalay we tried. My parents have had a Dunlop mattress from a small town in Wisconsin since 1973. Jungle Dunlop has been used by a broader market than California for a long time. This message was modified Jan 12, 2008 by mattressmom
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I'm with Mattressmom on the subject of Dunlop vrs Talalay. I slept on blended Dunlop for 20 years until the mattress started to dry up and disintegrate. At that time latex was impossible to find here in California and I bought a conventional innerspring mattress, but I really missed my old latex mattress. When it came time to replace the innerspring mattress I was thrilled at the prospect of once again sleeping on latex. Unfortunately Talalay just didn't live up to my expectations--or my memories. I experienced the same tensing of the back Mattressmom's husband did. Either it was too soft to be supportive or too firm and pushy to be comfortable but never just right. And yes, it was jiggly! Like sleeping on jello. With Talalay -- if you can sleep on it at all -- you really have to build up the mattress from a firmer support layer to a softer comfort layer, and even then it's tricky getting it just right. Dulop has a more solid feel. It's denser and more supportive at softer ILD's so that it's actually possible to find comfort and support in a single core. And no jiggling or sinking into the mattress at the hips. My only concern in getting a Dunlop mattress today is the jungle factor. Blended latex is a more consistent and stable product whether Talalay or Dunlop, but I don't know if it's even possible to find blended Dunlop latex any longer. This message was modified Jan 13, 2008 by cloud9
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cloud9 wrote: I don't know if it's even possible to find blended Dunlop latex any longer.
I don't know which products they are manufacturing in the US, nor do I know which blends they are importing to the US. |
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It looks like Latex International makes some Dunlop. There is a zoned Dunlop core made of "Unilatex" at the bottom of this page. Looks interesting but I have no idea where you'd buy it. Or is this Sapsa - the all synthetic latex? I'm so confused.... http://www.latexfoam.com/mattress/mattress_component.htm From LI's FAQ "Why do you sell Unilatex™, which is manufactured by Sapsa? In 1997, Latex International entered into an agreement with Sapsa Bedding to be the exclusive distributor of continuous process (Unilatex™) latex cores in North America. This ensured a comprehensive latex product portfolio. Today, Latex International remains the only Talalay latex foam manufacturer in the Americas. Sapsa’s Unilatex™, made to our specifications and high standards, is the highest quality, most consistent Dunlop process product in the world. The product is a firmer, denser latex and is ideally used as a base core. We recommend 2 to 4” of LI’s Talatech latex on top of the Sapsa material to optimize comfort, support, and pressure relief." This message was modified Jan 13, 2008 by mattressmom
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| FoamSource.com carries a 3 zoned 2 inch topper that is Dunlop latex. I think all of their latex comes from Latex International. I'm wondering if this would be a good top layer for a firm innerspring mattress even though I read that Dunlop makes for a better core or base underneath Talalay. Any thoughts on that? |
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mattressmom wrote: My parents have had a Dunlop mattress from a small town in Wisconsin since 1973. Jungle Dunlop has been used by a broader market than California for a long time. Reread my post. "Jungle latex" refers to dunlop made in Asia with very little quality control, not to dunlop in general, and especially not to that manufactured by major players. The 100% natural for the California market refers only to Latex International's Talatech. It used to be very difficult to find outside California, even after LI introduced it, since that was the intended market. It is not a better product than the blended Talatech, but many wanted a mattress which was "more natural" so LI offered it. |
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kimmcgov wrote: FoamSource.com carries a 3 zoned 2 inch topper that is Dunlop latex. I think all of their latex comes from Latex International. I'm wondering if this would be a good top layer for a firm innerspring mattress even though I read that Dunlop makes for a better core or base underneath Talalay. Any thoughts on that? I slept on what I would describe as a "medium" Dunlop latex core. It was soft and supportive at the same time. I personally would not want to add a Talalay layer to a similar Dunlop core because I don't like the jiggly character of Talalay latex or the way you tend to sink into Talalay at the hips. The Dunlop was super comfy as is. |