A mattress surgery question
Mar 11, 2010 12:48 PM
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I just posted about getting a new mattress, but it will be several months before we can do that. In the meantime, can I do mattress surgery to repair the huge sag in the middle of my bed? Does mattress surgery just fix firmness/softness issues, or can it fix a sag. We are desperate to get a better night's sleep. I briefly looked at the mattress surgery stickies on the main forum page, but it didn't look like the fix was for sags. Thanks!
Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #5 Mar 11, 2010 7:51 PM
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Yes, it should be pretty clear what the foam is.  You can look a photos of Jimsocal's surgery, if you go down to reply #8.  Or my photos

Best to use something like a box cutter to cut open.  Mine was pretty easy.  Maybe took 15 minutes.

If you buy the standard size foam for the size of you mattress, you should be able put it right inside.  A tight mattress pad/cover will hold it in place.

I currently use 2" of 32 ILD 100% natural talalay latex + 1" of 24ILD 100% natural talalay latex (both from rockymountain mattress) + 1" of mem-cool memory foam from overstock.  All were standard queen size pieces. 

Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #6 Mar 11, 2010 9:07 PM
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sandman wrote:

Yes, it should be pretty clear what the foam is. 



Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, I do know the difference between foam and springs, but wondered if I'd know if the springs are the problem or if the foam is the problem, just by looking at all of it. It was all so clear in my head while I was typing the question wink

Definately looking forward to my surgery - thanks for all of the tips!

Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #7 Mar 11, 2010 10:01 PM
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Q119 wrote:

 



Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify, I do know the difference between foam and springs, but wondered if I'd know if the springs are the problem or if the foam is the problem, just by looking at all of it. It was all so clear in my head while I was typing the question wink

Definately looking forward to my surgery - thanks for all of the tips!


Sorry, I misinterpreted your question.  I was a little worried if you could not tell the foam from the springs! blush  

If you cut the top of and take out the foam, I would suggest gently laying right on top of the springs (maybe covered by  a blanket if they are not covered), to see if they seem pretty firm or if they seem to noticably sag in the area where the whole mattress sags currently.    Hopefully they will seem pretty firm on both sides and in the middle.   In which case you might just need to add a few inches of new foam and may be set for several more years.    If the springs seem to sag a lot without any foam, then you probably need to scrap the whole thing. 

You can also inspect the foam to see if it looks compressed / matted down or something like that.  It might be hard to tell visually though. 

You can always put the old foam and cover back on and cover with a mattress pad. 

 


 

Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #8 Mar 12, 2010 5:11 AM
Location: L.A. area
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What you could do, is first open up the mattress, note the order in which the foam is layered and then remove it (taking digital photos would help, plus you could post them here! I love to see mattress innards! wink )

Anyway, then take off all the foam as Sandman said, then lay on it and see if it feels like it's dipping in the middle, without the foam (you could leave the very bottom layer of whatever it is they have on there - god knows what it might be; could be some kind of burlap type stuff or a plastic-like material or a thin layer of foam. So anyway, lay on it and see if you feel the dip. If you do, game over, you lost: the springs are shot. (Unless it's a flippable mattress, then you can try the other side...)

If you don't feel a dip in the springs themselves, then you could try just removing the top most 2-3 pieces of foam and lay on that and see if it now feels a bit better.

Then if it feels like it's no longer dipping as much, buy yourself some latex. If it's a queen, buy queen sized latex, it'll fit. Any piece you might get that is too big can be easily cut to fit with an electric meat carving knife. Cuts like a hot knife through butter.

Now you're only question is how much foam do you really want? You won't probably need as many inches of foam as you had before, usually 2-4" will be enough. I use about 3", Sandman likes a little more.

Let us know how it turns out, and post photos if it's not too much hassle. Here's how to post photos:

How to insert pictures:

1.  Select 'New Topic' or "Reply"
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3.  Select the 'Insert/Edit Image' icon just left of the smiley face, just above the message area.  A small window pops up.
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4b.  If the picture is on your personal hard drive you will need to first upload it to a picture sharing/storage service like Flickr or imageshack.com.  Once the picture is on that site you can simply cut and paste the URL of the image into the small window in step 4. On imageshack, after you've uploaded the picture, use the url next to where it says "Direct": copy and paste that url where it says url in the pop-up window here.

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Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #9 Mar 12, 2010 8:30 AM
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Thanks for your advice guys! Upon further inspection, it is not a pillowtop (my other bed is - had them confused)..it's a Serta Perfect Sleeper. Looking forward to trying this out. I'll definately take pictures and post!
Re: A mattress surgery question
Reply #10 Mar 13, 2010 4:55 PM
Location: L.A. area
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Q119 wrote:

Thanks for your advice guys! Upon further inspection, it is not a pillowtop (my other bed is - had them confused)..it's a Serta Perfect Sleeper. Looking forward to trying this out. I'll definately take pictures and post!


Great! I look forward to your experiment! I'm also pretty confident it will work out for you. Springs, especially with lots of padding on top, probably have not worn out, unless someone jumped on them a lot or something... but then again, if they're old... well, good luck!

If you do post pictures, please start a new thread "My Serta Mattress Surgery" or something...

This message was modified Mar 13, 2010 by jimsocal