| i have a sleepez bed that I keep trying to soften by adding more layers of foam in the case. So I now have 4.5 layers in a case meant for 3 layers. The case still zips, but I wonder if I am compressing the foam so much that it is affecting the feel. I have talalay latex, which always felt springy to me, but I am wondering if this made it more springy? Or if this is bad for the foam? |
| Hey Steve, been reading this thread and wanted to see if you have any update. |
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peclark wrote: Hey Steve, been reading this thread and wanted to see if you have any update. Steve |
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Steve, could you tell me what the ILD of the talalay and dunlop layers are? 4" of talalay over 6" of dunlop is similar to Natura eco brilliance which I liked in the store. I have some dunlop layers I am trying and just can't seem to find right combo. I have chronic lower back pain and think I need really firm. Last night I tried two 3" layers of 36 ILD dunlop over a 5" extra firm poly (using only temporarily) and it was obviously very firm. In morning my lower back felt pretty good buy middle/upper back was sore. Hard to find that just right combo where either lower or upper back isn't sore in morning. I have never tested with talalay yet. I also have a 2"19 ILD dunlop and 3" 31 dunlop I am working with. I sleep just find on my couch which is about 4+ inches of very firm foam over springs. I tend to think that you should know after one night if combo is working but maybe you do have to have a period of adjustment? I just know that when I sleep in some hotels with good mattress that I feel great in morning....but that may be plecebo effect too. Thanks |
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peclark wrote:
Steve, could you tell me what the ILD of the talalay and dunlop layers are? 4" of talalay over 6" of dunlop is similar to Natura eco brilliance which I liked in the store. I have some dunlop layers I am trying and just can't seem to find right combo. I have chronic lower back pain and think I need really firm. Last night I tried two 3" layers of 36 ILD dunlop over a 5" extra firm poly (using only temporarily) and it was obviously very firm. In morning my lower back felt pretty good buy middle/upper back was sore. Hard to find that just right combo where either lower or upper back isn't sore in morning. I have never tested with talalay yet. I also have a 2"19 ILD dunlop and 3" 31 dunlop I am working with. I sleep just find on my couch which is about 4+ inches of very firm foam over springs. I tend to think that you should know after one night if combo is working but maybe you do have to have a period of adjustment? I just know that when I sleep in some hotels with good mattress that I feel great in morning....but that may be plecebo effect too. Thanks Yes I think it usually takes a few days to know how good or bad a bed really is. Less if its just really terrible for you. More if its close. I've had configs I liked a lot at first that caused bad back problems after a few nights. So yes you should give each config time (like a few nights unless its obviously no good). One thing Phoenix preached was eliminating layers when testing. So you could try just 1 36ild layer on the extra firm base instead of 2. If you think thats too firm try the 31ild for a few nights. You didn't give weight and sleep positions (I'm guessing stomach?) but 8" of firm foam is probably enough for most people. Good luck. PS - this thread is so long and old that I think a lot of other people might not look at it anymore :-) You might do better starting a new thread... This message was modified Jan 30, 2011 by st3v3k4hn
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| Yeah I will keep testing. You have a talalay medium and dunlop soft also? But you are sleeping on the talalay soft over medium dunlop over firm dunlop? I wonder if when you are talking about like 36 ILD and above that talalay and dunlop at the same ILDs feel about the same? I am male 6"2" and 190. At this point I am not worried about pressure points, just trying to get a combo that I can wake up without back pain. I guess I need to be patient. Thanks |
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peclark wrote: Yeah I will keep testing. You have a talalay medium and dunlop soft also? But you are sleeping on the talalay soft over medium dunlop over firm dunlop? I wonder if when you are talking about like 36 ILD and above that talalay and dunlop at the same ILDs feel about the same? I am male 6"2" and 190. At this point I am not worried about pressure points, just trying to get a combo that I can wake up without back pain. I guess I need to be patient. Thanks Phoenix went into a lot of detail in this thread about dunlop vs talalay - I forget the exact terms but dunlop gets firmer faster as it compresses. So firm dunlop vs firm talalay might feel the same uncompressed, but as soon as you lay on it and compress it the dunlop will feel firmer. As I said I think you might be fine with just the 1 layer of dunlop on the extra firm core. Give that a try. I don't mind "helping" you but I'm not one of the experts here. Thats why I suggested you start a new thread... |