I've searched the net and this forum and have not found a clear answer to this: Who sells Dunlop latex in 1" to 3" thicknesses? Does anyone with a return or exchange policy sell Dunlop latex? So far about all I've found is full mattresses cores... Just found this: Can someone look at the picture and tell me : isn't this Dunlop latex? I didn't see anywhere in the description that it says Dunlop but as I recall, it looks like Dunlop... no? but it says "natural" latex... http://www.absolutecomfortonsale.com/latexfoam.htm#prices This message was modified Feb 3, 2008 by jimsocal
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cloud9, you might want to seek out Sleep Comp's blended Dunlop "Duratex" described below. I have no clue where you'd find it. Maybe you could contact Sleep Comp. http://www.sleepcomp.com/sc1-duratex.html "DURATEX A precision blend of natural and synthetic latex. Specially engineered for optimum resilience and durability. This product is poured using the Dunlop process and features our unique "3 Zone" pincore design for added lumbar support. Also available with our exclusive "side rail track" edge support system. Extra firm, high density polyfoam rails laminated to a solid latex core allow you to offer a plusher sleeping surface without sacrificing a clean firm edge." |
Cloud9, You might want to take a look at this. I wrote to Matt at Foamsource and he told me the Nu-rest topper comes from a company named Arpico. It's 15% natural and 85% synthetic. I think the zoning is 22-28-22 ILD. It is another one I'm considering, but wondering if the 28 ILD would be enough pressure relief for my hips (as a side sleeper). Mattress mom seems the most familiar with Dunlop. What does she think? |
About their toppers,Foamorder says: "You may add comments to your shopping cart to switch to a Talalay style latex for an additional 20%." Which must mean the ones you see there on the web site are Dunlop... |
<BR> Arpico is a major Dunlop supplier from Sri Lanka - probably the biggest of the reputable suppliers. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Take a look at the web sites for Arpico, Latexco, Dunlopillo, Latex International and Sleep Comp. http://www.arpico.com/ I don't really know that much about the Dunlop manufacturers. I just know the big names and that I like to sleep on an ILD around the mid to low 30's. A 22-28-22 topper sounds too soft for me. It is probably perfect for someone else. I'm not really sure what jungle Dunlop means. I'm guessing that bad jungle Dunlop latex is no name Asian latex with a lot of cheap fillers and impurities. All raw natural latex comes from rubber trees in South Asia. The difference is where and how it's processed - and what it's mixed with. Personally, I trust the big name Dunlop manufacturers more than I trust Sealy, Simmons and Serta. Who knows what's in their products?? SleepEZ lists these suppliers. Scroll down to the chart. http://www.sleepez.com/suppliers.htm From what I can piece together, these are the major reputable suppliers and the mattress companies like SleepEZ buy whatever they can get the best price on - unless they explicitly say something like "blended Talalay from Latex International". I feel like I have to trust that the mattress company is careful about where they get their latex. I don't really have any way to judge the quality of their sources. I look at the reputation of the company selling the product to me. I look at what else they sell and what their company emphasis seems to be. For example, FoamSource.com has a good reputation and has been around for a while. They charge fair prices - not necessarily bargain basement prices. (The Nu-rest toppers are listed at close out prices and not available in all sizes - that's different.) They wouldn't risk their reputation by selling junky latex even if it meant charging lower prices. At least that's how I look at it. Other people might not be as trusting. I wouldn't buy cheap latex from a place that doesn't display the content and/or source of their latex in some way (*cough* foambymail.com *cough*) but I was comfortable with the places I ended up buying from. Short of doing a chemical analysis myself, I have to trust what the mattress suppliers tell me. Most of the information I have seen about natural Dunlop is that it is around 90-95% pure tree sap with the rest made up of residual by-products of the manufacturing process. I would bet that the natural latex component of blended and natural Latex International Talalay isn't much different. I think if you stick with reputable mattress retailers who presumably get their materials from reputable suppliers, you are probably OK. If they screw up and get a bad batch of latex - you'd take it up with them, not the latex manufacturer. Organic Selections lists the following contents for their NaturaLux latex, which is pretty standard for what most places call 100% natural latex. It's not really 100% pure latex but the term seems to mean it isn't blended with petroleum products or mixed with cheap fillers. Contents: Natural Latex Rubber 90-95% Zinc Oxide 2-3% Fatty Acid Soaps 1-2% Sulfur 1-2% (bakes out completely during processing) Sodium 1-2% I am wary of places that sell complete mattresses a lot cheaper than the competition. I wonder where they are cutting corners. At the other end of the spectrum - I take the claims of the manufacturers of extremely expensive "Organic" mattresses with a very large grain of salt. They get their latex from the same places every one else does. They might have slightly nicer cover components but they aren't worth double or more what the other guys are selling - at least not to me. I am willing to spend a little more to get a higher quality product but only within reason. Remember that if the price is too good to be true - it probably is..... I'd be more concerned about prices that were insanely low than a bit higher than average. The other thing to remember is that the shift to interest in latex mattresses is relatively new in the US - or at least revived from days gone by. There aren't that many suppliers and retailers compared to traditional spring coil mattresses. The vast majority of Americans still buy Sealy, Serta, Simmons and their clones. Latex mattresses have been growing in popularity but they are still a tiny segment of the mattress market. They are more popular in Europe than here. My experience was that local mattress retailers didn't know nearly as much about the two or three latex mattresses they had on display as they did about the zillion permutations and price points of their spring coil mattresses. This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by mattressmom
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Thanks for this. I had looked at this before and it is on my short list, but it doesn't say what the ILD's are of the topper. Have you by any chance asked? I'm going to call or write them to find out. It's a pretty good price and if the zoning is the right ILD for my back I may buy it and chop it up for my own component system zoning. That is, if the zones are all relatively firm, I could try both the firm zone and the less firm zone under my hips, or use the firm zone under my hips, and use a softer zone from something else under my shoulders. |
But, they're out of stock on the size I want (XL Twin.) In fact, they're out of other sizes, too. I called and asked when they expected to have it in again. Not sure. :( |
Looks like foamorder.com has about the best deal for what I want to do... that is, order pieces for zoning. I have to call them to make SURE it's Dunlop, but if it is I think I'll order 2 pieces for zones - one medium and one firm - from them. Here's their price for custom cut latex: $66.81 for soft medium or firm - 31, 37 or 44 ILD. Rectangle Modify dimensions Width: 37 in Depth: 25 in Thickness: 2 in BUT I just saw this: "The latex sold in this section (custom cut to order) is Talalay latex. While it doesn't have any fire retardants added, it is made from a blend of synthetic and natural latex. If you are interested in 100% natural latex we can quote this for you by email. 100% natural latex is all priced according to how many mattress size pieces you need and there is a minimum of one mattress." So, it sounds like they won't cut Dunlop to custom shapes and sizes. Dang. The prices above apparently are for Talalay... Though I'll call to confirm. But , the guy where I bought my custom cut HR foam today said he would call and give me a price for custom-cut Dunlop, so I'll see what he comes up with. Otherwise, at least you guys have helped me narrow down the playing field, if I do need to buy via the net... Thanks. This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by jimsocal
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Jim, Read my post above. I DID ask them. It is 22-28-22. |
I wrote them before I saw this post. Finally they got back to me and they told me it is 24 - 30- 24. So it appears they are guessing. And all they have left is the Queen size. I wanted a twin or a king (to cut in half if it was cheaper than 2 twins). Since it's zoned, the Queen would be a waste of money for me. If I cut it to twin size, the piece left over would be basically wasted. Weird, though: I looked all over the net, and found NO ONE ELSE selling this topper! This message was modified Feb 6, 2008 by jimsocal
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Well, this one seems to win the prize for the cheapest Dunlop processed topper in 1-2" thickness. AND free shipping. Total price for a Twin size 2" "medium firm" 26ILD is $154.95. https://www.sleepwarehouse.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35&strVarSel=578,584,590&strCompare= SleepWarehouse 100% Natural Latex mattress topper pads at extremely competitive pricing! Latex toppers are available in 2, 3 and 4 inch thick configurations in a Medium-Soft 16-18 ILD 4.75 lb density and our all new Medium-Firm 26 ILD 5.2 lb density toppers. All latex pads are cut to full mattress sizing. Our latex toppers are manufactured via the Dunlop process resulting in a high quality, most supportive and comfortable latex toppers available. No harmful additives, just 100% all natural latex. ****My only question now is: Is a 26ILD firm enough for the hip layer in a mattress? Even though Dunlop is "firmer" than Talalay? This message was modified Feb 6, 2008 by jimsocal
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