Mattress Forum

Anyone know what density the Gel foam and Koolcomfort foam are? 

The amount of sink into this Revolution bed is ridiculous.  So, 2 out of 4 of the beds are IMO, ultra plush - the Revolution and Prodigy. 

I have no idea if it was bent upon shipment or bent in the last 4 weeks.  btw, the bent rod is right about in the hips, butt area.

If you have one of these foundations, shine a flashlight under it, up throught the fabric .... I don't think you'll be too impressed.

I do actually wonder though if our first bed (Insight) had the wrong or defective foam, as after a month of sleeping on the Insight and going back to the store, our Insight was without question harder than the showroom floor Insight.  

PS.  We bought Temperpedic foam pillows off Ebay (rhapsedy, I think?) and really love them.  Again, pricy as heck, but really nice for side-sleepers.  I find they have settled out about an inch (since new) to be just perfect for me.  I don't like a fat or skinny pillow, it needs to be just right.  That would be this pillow!

I don't have the Genius, but I've sampled it a number of times in the store.  Genius is just 2.75" of the gel memory foam.  Right underneath that is a 2" layer of 'support foam'.  My guess is that foam is there to firm up the mattress quite a bit.  I've always found the Genius more firm than Insight.

Under the 2" layer is the 6" core foam.

Will the Genius soften up?  I don't know, but the post above yours might give some insight.

 

My main recommendation would be make sure you're not sinking too much into one of these in the store.  If your hips sink in quite a bit, I'd say pass, unless you know you do well on something like that.

One other thing.  I discovered the matching 'box spring' foundation to the iComfort is not very good.  Look underneath one and you will see.  After 4 weeks, there was a bent rod in mine, and I'm only 195 lbs.  All the foundation is, is wood slats on the bottom and these V shaped rods that go to the surface and connect with a grid of straight rods.   

I've seen the insides of the Stearns and Foster foundation I had, and that was much better quality than this Serta.  But, it costs $110 more in twin XL size.

Still, I think Serta needs to close the gap between the Revolution and Genius.  My measurement showed 5.75" of memory foam in the Revolution.  I suspect it's not all that dense either.  Don't know the lbs.  Genius has 2.75" mem foam on 2" of some 'support foam'.  It's too much firmer than Revolution IMO.  And Revolution is too much softer, so they need to soften up Genius a little and vice versa for the Revolution IMO.

What experiences do other have with this adjustable foundation?  We are not very tall and have the regular low foundation, so it the addtional height a problem for others? . Also, does anyone have "thrusting" experience, if you know what I mean, with the adjustable foundation? With the revolution as it is, it is quite good. Others thoughts?

I've seen the Tempurpedic foundations - all wood perimeter and solid platform.  They seem much better than above.

Bottom line - I'm not impressed at all with iComfort box spring.  it will be sold soon.

So here is my opinion and you can argue the facts all day long ,but I am thorough. The main problem I have seen with this product is the way its memory foam is made. First they start with taking sheets of gel and chop it down into small pieces. They than put these chunks of gel and mix it into there memory foam(liquid state). Here is the problem. Lets say I was making blueberry  pancakes. I start out with some bisquick and follow the directions to make 10-12 pancakes. I then take 80 blueberries and pour it into this batter. I cook up 10 pancakes and serve them. None of my pancakes have the same number of blueberries damn. same thing with this gel and it is noticeable after laying on about four different floor models of each make. End all it's very inconsistent and I can tell that in areas of each of the models I have checked out where there are hardspots where more gel is concentrated into a certain area and soft spots where none or not much gel was.

Secondly it has been said but i will say it again. The only way Gel would have a cooling affect is in a full gel layer on top so it could disperse the heat but at that time you would be making it difficult for the memory foam below to breathe. So it kind of defeats the purpose as the memory foam would still be taking in the heat dispersed off the gel although it would be alot less heat than if you were directly on the MF. So the ony true way that the can keep from have a MF that sleeps hot is to have a breathable(open cell structure) MF or better air venting under the foam.

Good idea but it's not practicle or consistent. They will get it right one day and I know that most of them are going out just fine but the ones that are returning are the ones that have recieved far less or far more gel chunks than the one they loved in the store.