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Hi everyone, I am new to the forum. My husband and I are about to buy the third mattress of our 10-year marriage :-) I have been doing a little "light reading" on this forum beforehand and I thought I would share our experience so far. I will also report back after we purchase and test-drive. I had spinal fusion surgery for scoliosis when I was 13, and have had back issues (shoulder, neck, and low back/hip areas) off and on ever since. I see an excellent chiropractor about every month or so (Gonstead school) to manage flareups. I cannot sleep on any kind of air mattress or sofa without feeling wrecked - I'm better off on a padded floor. My husband doesn't have back trouble and can sleep pretty much on anything. I weigh about 105 lbs and he weighs about 170. Ten years ago we bought a Sealy Posturepedic Camillo Plush. It was among the last crop of SCo flippable mattresses and we have really liked it. After traveling we're always happy to be back home on our own bed. It's not as if it ELIMINATES my back and neck troubles... but they're far worse on other mattresses. Plus, it's a double and we just bought a new queen-sized bed. About six months ago, we went to a local company that makes double-sided mattresses (Original Mattress Company) and got a new double mattress. I felt like I should err on the side of hard rather than too soft. It wound up being too hard for me to get used to, even with a 2" cheap-o memory foam topper to try to soften it, it was the princess and the pea. Rather than return it, we gave it to our five-year-old daughter. We are strongly considering the Tempur-pedic Cloud series, or similar. I don't like the feel of the other Tempur-pedics I tried, and our "mental" $$ limit is $1800 anyway. I went to mattress stores twice this weekend and kept going back and forth between Cloud and Cloud Supreme. I liked both... I think the Cloud may be a little TOO hard for my husband to be comfortable. It's $1800 locally with free delivery. The Supreme is $2400 locally with free delivery. On Costco.com I found the Ara 13" Pillow Top Visco Foam. Comparing its basic description, it SEEMS to be similar to the makeup of the Cloud Supreme. $1399 with base. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11307563&whse=BC&Ne=5000127+4000000&eCat=BC|93&N=4018920%204294899766&Mo=10&No=3&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav= Ara: 3" of 5 lb. Visco Foam - then 3 5/8" 5 lb. Visco Foam Tempur-Pedic Cloud Supreme: 2" of 4.1" Tempur-ES Foam - then 2" 5.3 lb Tempur-ES Foam So I'm wondering... are these comparable? (The other route is to go with the "devil I know" and get another Sealy Posturepedic Plush, or a Simmons Beautyrest Cushion Firm. But he and I both feel it's the perfect time to see if memory foam/Tempur-pedic is a better choice.) The Cloud (regular) seems like it might be similar to Costco's Sleep Science 10" .... although the Sleep Science doesn't say what density their visco foam is here. Hmmm. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11472257&whse=BC&Ne=5000127%204000000&eCat=BC|93&N=4018920%204294899766&Mo=10&No=6&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav= |
| I would be concerned that the Ara would be pretty soft. Not sure if that is what you are looking for. Over 6" of memory foam on top is a fair amount. Soft can feel comfortable, but cause back issues for some people. The Celeste is pretty firm, and the 10" Emma is somewhere in between. You can also try calling Sleep Science for info. of the 10". |
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gaddygirl wrote:
As I understand it from this forum, the major properties of latex seem to be that it is more antimicrobial (hypoallergenic?), does not wear out as fast as coil or foam mattresses, and has more "spring" to it than memory foam or Tempur-pedic. Of course, those are generalizations based on the one latex mattress I had (which was only latex on the upper 50%) which I slept on for two weeks, and the one TP mattress I've slept on for one week. (and that one has a layer of latex in the middle!). So, YMMV. I did notice in all of my shopping that the TP brand of MF does feel different from all of the generic stuff out there. It definitely has a higher quality feel to it. More of the "slow resiliency" effect. Denser. Heavier. Also, Talalay processed Latex has more of the soft, cushy feel you may desire vs. the dunlop process which is akin to whale blubber. (Some refer to Dunlop as marshmallowey. But, their local supermarkets must sell some pretty old, dense marshmallows.) This message was modified Jun 14, 2010 by garypen
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Thanks for the helpful info on latex. Although the dual-sided latex from Costco is tempting, I think I've talked myself into the Emma you mentioned. I really do like the feeling of Tempur-Pedic / MF. I have two crappy 2" foam toppers around the house (seriously, these were like $20 at Target, it's embarrassing) - I put them on my carpeted floor the other evening watching my daughter play, and almost fell asleep on them, I was that comfortable  I promise to report back once we purchase the mattress and foundation, and let you know how it's panning out! Sounds like assembling the foundation for the Emma can be a challenge. |
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We bought a mattress at 5 PM this afternoon, and it is already set up in our bedroom! We decided on.... (dramatic pause) ...the Tempur-Pedic Cloud! Not the Supreme ... I definitely thought that would be too soft. Just the regular. We got free delivery, two free Tempur-pedic pillows, and a free thin waterproof mattress topper, and they took away an old mattress. With tax, the total came to just over $1900. I know the Cloud isn't for everyone but it's the one I kept returning to in the stores. Just felt right. As promised, I will update and review. |
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gaddygirl wrote: We bought a mattress at 5 PM this afternoon, and it is already set up in our bedroom! We decided on.... (dramatic pause) ...the Tempur-Pedic Cloud! Not the Supreme ... I definitely thought that would be too soft. Just the regular. We got free delivery, two free Tempur-pedic pillows, and a free thin waterproof mattress topper, and they took away an old mattress. With tax, the total came to just over $1900. I know the Cloud isn't for everyone but it's the one I kept returning to in the stores. Just felt right. As promised, I will update and review. what size is it? King size? did you also buy the foundation too? what method did you us eto pay them? Check? good luck Thanks. |
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It is a queen size, we did buy the foundation, and it was from a company called Factory Mattress. http://www.factorymattressusa.com/ Not sure why you want to know how we paid, but if you must know, it was by credit card. |
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What ype of credit card, Visa? And, did you have to sign a little piece of paper, or did they have one of those touchscreens? What were the delivery guys wearing? |
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garypen wrote: What ype of credit card, Visa? And, did you have to sign a little piece of paper, or did they have one of those touchscreens? What were the delivery guys wearing? Also what were the ladies wearing? Lipstick color? haha... |
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Update on the Tempur-Pedic Cloud we bought last week, as promised... Right after we bought it, we were at the beach for three nights on a springy older coil mattress. Last year on this same mattress, I had a hard time. This year, I brought along the Tempur-Pedic pillow that came with our new mattress, and my sleep was MUCH better. I don't think I will leave the house without this pillow again! OK, so we're back home, and have spent three nights on the new mattress. The name "Cloud" is a misnomer - to me, it feels more like sleeping on Play-Doh. I have been waking up a little stiff; but on the plus side, my vertebrae don't need to "pop" in the morning as with other mattresses. Also, I don't toss and turn as much. But I do not LOVE my new queen mattress... in fact I am having thoughts of sneaking back into the guest bedroom and cheating with the Sealy Posturepedic double mattress that we do both love. The problem I'm having right now is that my husband seems to really hate the new bed but is too nice to come out and say it. This morning he reported that his lower back (small of his back) hurt. This man NEVER has back trouble, so that concerns me. He has mentioned several times that the bed "seems kind of hard" and "I guess I'll get used to it after twenty years." Unless something happens in the next 10 days and we both adapt, I gotta try something different. If we return the mattress, we will get zapped with about a $200 restocking fee, plus buying the pillows (expensive but I'll do it!) and waterproof mattress cover (which is fine with me but again, expensive, maybe $50+) We paid $1800 so I will guess we will have about $1400 in store credit. That would buy another Sealy Posturepedic Plush (the aforementioned "devil we know") that is very comfortable to us. The first thing I am willing to try is putting a thin layer of something softer on top. Don't know what... and don't know if that would completely negate any positive effects of having a Tempur-pedic. I guess I will check out Sleeplikeabear. I know a lot of people put latex toppers on, but I'm not sure what the best "softening" layer would be to try on a Tempur-pedic. Memory foam from Overstock or Costco? This is the second mattress I have bought within a year that is turning out too firm for comfort. |
| I am surprised you, and especially your husband, are finding the Cloud too firm. I weigh 105 lb and when I tried it out I found it too soft - the first bed I have ever found to be too soft. Since you both like your Sealy, if you can still get the same model, that would seem to be a serious contender. |