would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Feb 20, 2008 9:13 PM
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 28
here is the list of contents according to one website that carries the mattress.  I'm trying to make sure that the core of this matress is actually all latex, not just some latex.  I realize that there are some layers (comfort layers) that are pu foam, and if I click on it it claims to be high density foam, any comments on that?)

Quilt - Top of Mattress
1 ounce FlameGuard Fiber
Fire-Safety Certified
1 1/4" x 1/2" Convoluted InfiniLux
1" SuperSoft SealyFoam

Padding Layers
3/4" Sealy Latex
1 1/2" SuperSoft SealyFoam
3/4" Sealy Latex
Versare Inner Panel
1" x 1/2" Convoluted Latex SealyFoam
1/2" SuperSoft SealyFoam
3/4" Sealy Latex

SpringFree Core
3 layers of Latex laminated together
1.6" Plush Luxury Latex Foam
1.6" Firm Luxury Latex Foam
5.7" Firm Luxury Latex Foam


Description of "supersoft sealy foam"
Description
High quality and high density Polyurethane foam.
Benefit
Cushions and conforms to your body for a plusher, more comfortable feel. SuperSoft SealyFoam is made through an innovative process which produces a more uniform cell structure. And it's 10% more durable than regular foam.
Analogy
This uniform cell structure is like the strength and uniformity of building with bricks vs. the inconsistent shapes of stones.


Description of "Luxury Latex Foam"
Features Luxury Latex Foam contours to your body’s curves, and moves with you as you move in the bed, providing continuous orthopedic support.

As the Luxury Latex Foam contours to your body, your body weight is spread over your entire sleeping surface. The contouring effect spreads your body weight over more of the sleeping surface and minimizes "pressure points", thereby creating a more comfortable sleep. Pressure points can create discomfort and cause you to toss and turn more frequently, so Latex’s contouring property reduces pressure points to help you toss and turn less, and sleep better.

In addition, another feature of Luxury Latex Foam is the "open cell" structure that enables the mattress to "breath". This feature allows the release of body heat and moisture keeping the sleeping surface comfortable.

Description of the "InfiniLux"
Description
Delivers the amazing comfort and resiliency of the best latex foams, and is engineered for superior quality and durability.
Analogy
Like a carton safely cradles eggs, it allows you to nestle in secure comfort

----I realize that is a misleading description that implies it is actually latex but it's not.  Clever buggers-----
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #1 Feb 21, 2008 2:40 PM
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 28
well I got my mattress salesman to do some actual work for me on this one.  After calling S/F myself (I know I asked about Sealy but same thing) S/F wouldn't give me any specifications at all.  My mattress guy was able to get some from his contacts.  He tells me that the core is an ILD of 38 and the "flawless foam" which on the Sealy I think is called the "supersoft sealy foam" is a 28 ILD.  Nothing more.  And that the core is in fact all latex, no other materials besides latex (albeit the synthetic latex) in there.    So now I'm just left wondering if the amounts of non-latex materials is too much to compromise the quality and longevity of the mattress.  And by longevity I mean 5-8 yrs would make me happy.  

Any comments on this information?
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #2 Feb 21, 2008 8:03 PM
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Points: 2
I tried one of these mattresses out today and it was very comfortable. I am trying to decide between this and one of the online kits.
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #3 Feb 21, 2008 9:08 PM
Location: NC
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Points: 72
I had this same mattress delivered 2 weeks ago and was excited beyond words. I had a sore back and hip from a 20 year old rock hard mattress and it slowly helped alleviate most of that pain. It sunk so much around my shoulders I had to adjust the height of my pillow to one half as thick to avoid a neck ache. This mattress is VERY soft and does not feel supportive. It's great for pressure points but not for a sense of firmness. It squishes down when you sit on it if you like to sit in bed and read--a bit uncomfortable. With all the latex, I thought it would be firmer. I'm reluctantly turning mine back in and getting a sealy springfree plush without the box top. Hopefully it will be the best of comfort and firmness.
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #4 Feb 21, 2008 9:55 PM
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 28
There are 5 different levels of firm/plushness.  Which one did you think was too soft?  Was it the Sealy or the Stearns/Foster?  Not that it is really different but we are actually getting the S/F model.  I don't know why I put the Sealy one in the thread.  The one we are leaning towards was right in the middle of firm and plush.  In the S/F brand it is called Saybrook point.  It did not have a pillow top.
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #5 Feb 21, 2008 10:46 PM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
Points: 1161
The Sealy you described has WAY TOO MUCH soft foam in it. I don't care how much latex it has, it will not give proper support to the back with all that soft foam.

My advice is that no matter what spring mattress you buy, get the firmest one possible with the best springs and then add your own toppers such as high quality latex and high quality 5lb memory foam.

Never have more than 2-3" of soft foam under your back.

Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #6 Feb 22, 2008 6:01 AM
Joined: Sep 7, 2007
Points: 476
jimsocal wrote:
Never have more than 2-3" of soft foam under your back.

These words should be posted in banner format at the top of this forum!
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #7 Feb 22, 2008 7:31 AM
Location: NC
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Points: 72
Please check your specks again--they match up to the S & F Ariel Sands, not the Saybrook according to my info. The mattress I referred to in my answer was the S & F Ariel Sands. It truly is way too much cushioning although it feels like a dream when you first lie on it. If you try the Saybrook I'd love to hear your feedback after sleeping on it for a few days . I'm looking at it myself now. Also, trying to figure out if it would just be better to get an innerspring with latex inside as the comfort layers or a stripped down innerspring and add layers as many advocate on this board. Good luck with your decision.
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #8 Feb 22, 2008 7:47 AM
Joined: Sep 10, 2007
Points: 395
"Never have more than 2-3" of soft foam under your back."

A very good starting point.

And back to the original query, stay away from any mattress with that much comfort PU. Except for allergy side of things, nothing wrong with high quality HR PU. It's the soft comfort crap that will compress (or even worse, lose all support, but NOT compress so warranty never kicks in). These companies don't make money by selling mattresses that last 20 years. If they really wanted to make a good mattress, they wouldn't use any soft PU materials subject to rapid failure OR would make it easy to open up and replace the compromised layers. They don't for a reason. If you've been told it's a 38 ILD 6" core, and you like it, you can buy 6" of 40 ILD (or 40/44) for under $900, and build your own. Even if considering one of these with a plan to open up yourself and replace junk when needed, I would do some serious research on the all synthetic talalay. It may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I sort of doubt it. The 6" core you buy on your own should last 20 years. Why settle for cheaper materials which may only last 5-8? Google "sleeplikeabear." They carry LI toppers in thicknesses from 1" to 3" (also 6", but only in 28 ILD, which is way too soft).
Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #9 Feb 22, 2008 8:03 AM
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Points: 2
These mattress are difficult to compare by name as each store has  a different name for these mattresses. There are only 5 different spring free mattresses firm, plush, ultra plush, plush euro pillowtop and ultra plush box top. The mattress I tried was the ultra plush model, but I would like to try the plush model which is less expensive.  The plush model supposedly offers more support and has less foam. Anyone have any experience/input on the plush model?

Thanks

Re: would anyone mind helping me evaluate the content of this mattress (Sealy Springfree latex)
Reply #10 Feb 22, 2008 9:06 AM
Joined: Feb 17, 2008
Points: 28
for some reason I just grabbed the specs off a random s/f latex model, NOT the saybrook point which is the one we are looking at.  I was gettingmore at the material content, not the specific amounts of materials.  Sorry for the confusion!    Here are the layers of the Saybrook Point:

  • Exquisite Quilt  Cover  
    • 1.0 ounce FlameGuard Silk/Wool Blend 
    • 1-1/2 x 1/2 " Convoluted SuperSoft Flawless Foam
    • 1/2" Supersoft Flawless Foam
  • Comfort Layers
    • 1 x 1/2" Convoluted Genuine Latex Foam
    • 1/4" Genuine Latex Foam
    • 1" SuperSoft Flawless Foam
  • Core
    • 1.57" Plush Luxury Latex
    • 1.57" Firm Luxury Latex
    • 5.71" Firm Luxury Latex