Susan123 wrote:
Hi Jim - You may want to look at Original Mattress Factory. They have mattresses with 12.5 gauge springs. They are very upfront about what's in their mattresses, and have a website with all the info. In their stores they have cut outs of what's inside each one. The 12.5 gauge springs were too firm for my taste, but I imagine they are very long lasting.
Hi, I was surprised to see this thread. Just so you all know this thread was dug up from almost 2 years ago!
I am quite sure the Englander springs I have were 12.5 gauge. Yes some companies do use 12.5 gauge springs though nowadays here in 2011 most companies are using pocket coils from 14-15 gauge.
I am actually very interested in trying some of the new pocket coils by Simmons. I'm not sure they're any better than they were when I hated the mattress I bought from them - and since threw out - many years ago. But really pocket coils seem to be a good way to go, and no one is making an affordable pocket coil any better than Simmons as far as I know. At least they've been at it the longest and I assume they kinda sorta know what they are doing.
All the Simmons now have foam around the edges (all the new ones that is; their discontinued Classic line still has higher thicker/stronger springs around the edge instead) to kind of keep the springs from migrating outward as I've seen some do. Most mattresses except the very cheapest now have a very hard foam around the edges. This is a very dense foam, not designed to sleep on but to sit on and it's for people who like to sit on their bed when putting on shoes etc. I suggest that you NEVER sit on your mattress except on the foot of it.
Simmons uses more springs per area than S&F do. (This is quoted as density and some less than knowledgeable sales people will quote that figure to you as "count" but it's not a "count" - as in total springs used per mattress - it's density.)
Perhaps the main thing about getting a quality pocket coil mattress is that it has not been mistreated when shipping it from the factory to your home. If these type mattresses are bent around corners it may damage them or if they are tossed around too much it may damage them. If you get one that is handled well from the factory to your home you stand a much better chance of it lasting.
Never jump or walk on it, don't even allow small kids to do that. Never bend it around corners or move it violently in any way or the springs may migrate causing problems.
Hi Jim - You may want to look at Original Mattress Factory. They have mattresses with 12.5 gauge springs. They are very upfront about what's in their mattresses, and have a website with all the info. In their stores they have cut outs of what's inside each one. The 12.5 gauge springs were too firm for my taste, but I imagine they are very long lasting.
Hi, I was surprised to see this thread. Just so you all know this thread was dug up from almost 2 years ago!
I am quite sure the Englander springs I have were 12.5 gauge. Yes some companies do use 12.5 gauge springs though nowadays here in 2011 most companies are using pocket coils from 14-15 gauge.
I am actually very interested in trying some of the new pocket coils by Simmons. I'm not sure they're any better than they were when I hated the mattress I bought from them - and since threw out - many years ago. But really pocket coils seem to be a good way to go, and no one is making an affordable pocket coil any better than Simmons as far as I know. At least they've been at it the longest and I assume they kinda sorta know what they are doing.
All the Simmons now have foam around the edges (all the new ones that is; their discontinued Classic line still has higher thicker/stronger springs around the edge instead) to kind of keep the springs from migrating outward as I've seen some do. Most mattresses except the very cheapest now have a very hard foam around the edges. This is a very dense foam, not designed to sleep on but to sit on and it's for people who like to sit on their bed when putting on shoes etc. I suggest that you NEVER sit on your mattress except on the foot of it.
Simmons uses more springs per area than S&F do. (This is quoted as density and some less than knowledgeable sales people will quote that figure to you as "count" but it's not a "count" - as in total springs used per mattress - it's density.)
Perhaps the main thing about getting a quality pocket coil mattress is that it has not been mistreated when shipping it from the factory to your home. If these type mattresses are bent around corners it may damage them or if they are tossed around too much it may damage them. If you get one that is handled well from the factory to your home you stand a much better chance of it lasting.
Never jump or walk on it, don't even allow small kids to do that. Never bend it around corners or move it violently in any way or the springs may migrate causing problems.