Just ordered Sleepez 10000....

[novahelp]

Ok, I bit the bullet and ordered the SleepEZ 10000 and returned the Costco Comfortluxe.

I am a bit nervous about ordering a mattress without having tried it! However, what I really liked was Shawn even suggested I spend LESS and buy the 8500 model because "you just don't use more than 5.6/6" of foam." He said that until the mid-80s all the latex mattresses were just 6", but since then people think more is better. I ended up choosing the 10000 because of bed sheet fiting, Shawn said that sheets can be a bit of a pain to get for the thinner mattresses nowadays (Sheets are made for huge beds now)

So despite my nervousness on buying something sight unseen, I just keep telling myself all the wonderful reviews I have read here about the service level with Sleepez means it should be ok! (i hope ).

 

[Lynn2006]

Novahelp Good luck with your new purchase. Please let us know how you like your new bed and the latex kit when it arrives. I think it is better to go with the thicker mattress so you have more latex combination choices. I feel you will be happy.

 

[novahelp]

Thanks! I hope so!! Will definitely report back.

BTW, I went with (at Shawn's suggestion) Medium-Firm-Xfirm

 

[Lynn2006]

What are the ILD's for those combination Latex Cores Novahelp? I am just curious since I know Sleepies ILD are different from FloBeds ILD's for what they name the core. For instance, I have one one side of my bed a 1.5" soft non-convoluted topper over a 44 ILD (SUPER FIRM per FloBeds) over a 36 ILD (Extra Firm FloBeds calls this) over a 36 ILD. On my other side of the bed. I have the same topper over a 36 ILD that averages out to over 37 ILD over a 44 ILD that averages out to over a 45 ILD over a 36 ILD over a solid pine slat box with organic cotton sides over 10" legs. The mattress is incased in a zippered cotton/wool cover (the previous one was organic so I am not sure about this one but it is wonderful) and looks like a real mattress when zipped up. I think SleepEZ's Extra Firm is 40 ILD. I do wish FloBeds had a 40 ILD latex core but otherwise I am very happy with my Latex Kit from Flobeds.com.
I am sure you will be happy too from your latex kit from SleepEZ.com. Just trry out the different combinations for awhile before making a decison to exchange a latex core. Also did you get the split cores like I got to give you more latex combinations and to make it easier to move around?

 

[ericgl]

Congrats Nova, having gone from memory foam to latex, I think you'll be pleased.
Be sure to report back.

 

[haysdb]

I was interested to note that all of the mattresses shown on the Dunlopillo (U.K. manufacturer of latex) website are no more than 8" thick.

 

[novahelp]

Lynn2006 wrote:
What are the ILD's for those combination Latex Cores Novahelp? I am just curious since I know Sleepies ILD are different from FloBeds ILD's for what they name the core. For instance, I have one one side of my bed a 1.5" soft non-convoluted topper over a 44 ILD (SUPER FIRM per FloBeds) over a 36 ILD (Extra Firm FloBeds calls this) over a 36 ILD. On my other side of the bed. I have the same topper over a 36 ILD that averages out to over 37 ILD over a 44 ILD that averages out to over a 45 ILD over a 36 ILD over a solid pine slat box with organic cotton sides over 10" legs. The mattress is incased in a zippered cotton/wool cover (the previous one was organic so I am not sure about this one but it is wonderful) and looks like a real mattress when zipped up. I think SleepEZ's Extra Firm is 40 ILD. I do wish FloBeds had a 40 ILD latex core but otherwise I am very happy with my Latex Kit from Flobeds.com.
I am sure you will be happy too from your latex kit from SleepEZ.com. Just trry out the different combinations for awhile before making a decison to exchange a latex core. Also did you get the split cores like I got to give you more latex combinations and to make it easier to move around?

Yes, i got split cores. Here are the firmness from the web site.

4 Firmness Choices For Each Layer​
Soft​	22-24 ILD
Medium​	30-32 ILD
Firm​	38-40 ILD
X Firm​	44 ILD

 

[Lynn2006]

Novahelp thanks for sharing. I hope you continue to be happy with your SleepEZ bed and your configuration you chose. It seems you like a firm bed also like I do.
My configuration (FloBeds) is similar but a little more firm than yours but with a 1.5" soft topper over a 44 ILD over a 36 ILD over a 36 ILD. I tried the medium firmness (32 ILD at FloBeds) and it was too soft for me but that was before I had a 44 ILD to put under it so maybe I would have loved your configuration also if I had no topper. But I still think I can not go softer than a 36 ILD in my configuration and I like having a little cushion near my pressure points I found out from my experiences these past several months of trial and error in getting my bed just right. I loved the 1" topper over my 36 ILD over my 44 ILD over a 36 ILD the best but the Overstock topper was flimsy and not holding up well so that is why I went with the 1.5" sturdier topper from FloBeds. I feel everyone should have at least one 44 ILD in their configuration if they are going with 3 or more layers. I wanted a 44 ILD but did not order it at first due to it being blended latex and I was trying to stay with all natural latex but I feel the Talalay latex blended does a good job at making the product safe for me since it is not bothering me and I am chemically sensitive. Most of my latex mattress is 100% natural but I have added the two blended 44 ILD latex cores and a soft latex pillow from FloBeds that Dave made less thick for me to accommodate my small size and like for flatter latex pillows. I know when I had two 36 ILD's over the slat box with no third layer, it was very firm and needed on 44 ILD latex core but the mattress was too thin for my sheets and too low for the height of my new beautiful Iron Headboard. I also love my 10" legs that allow storage under my bed and are sturdy making the bed feel very solid and make the bed a nice height for me.

 

[novahelp]

I haven't actually gotten my bed yet

I don't really like a firm bed. But because of my size, Shawn strongly suggested I start with that configuration. He said most people find the SOFT layer to be too soft once they try it, and given my size he said to definitely start with Medium-Firm-X-firm.

 

[Lynn2006]

Novahelp, I feel you will be happy with the configuration you chose since lying on the Medium is supportive but very cushiony I found out. I have a slight case of Scoliosis so I do not like sinking into a bed and have always slept on a very firm bed that had no topper so it is surprising to me that a little bit of cushion is actually comfortable with support underneath.

 

[novahelp]

Just put it together. Funny thing, the case was too small initially. Called Shawn and before I could finish my question he explained that the case gets stretched by the foam. It did and it is a perfect fit. Will report back over the next couple nights. Very initial impression, i like this more than memory foam! another impression, I may want to switch to a softer layer on top...

 

[ericgl]

Thanks Nova.
Personally I prefer a soft, some would say unbearably soft, feel. I think you will have to find what works best for you.

 

[novahelp]

ow! Yep, given the time I am posting, this mattress is much too hard for me I think...

or, are the years of sleeping on memory foam made latex not good for me? I had to put the 3" fbm topper on top of the mattress to soften it up.

I am beginning to think this was a mistake the latex foam. It's just awful. Please tell me that latex can be much softer than this?

 

[ericgl]

My first night felt way too firm and that was with 3" 20 ILD, 3" 32 ILD, and 5" 50 IFD PU foam. The second night was much better. I added another 2" 32 ILD latex in an attempt to get me further off the PU foam. Better, but still not soft enough, so I'm adding some 16-18 ILD latex.

 

[novahelp]

ericgl wrote:
My first night felt way too firm and that was with 3" 20 ILD, 3" 32 ILD, and 5" 50 IFD PU foam. The second night was much better. I added another 2" 32 ILD latex in an attempt to get me further off the PU foam. Better, but still not soft enough, so I'm adding some 16-18 ILD latex.

I hope I don't have to do all that. I thought by spending the $$ I wouldn't have to start spending even more on top of it nor create a frankenbed
I guess I like a very soft bed that is supportive, which I didn't know before (or realize). I will call Shawn to discuss later today. OUCH!!!!!

Currently I have with this with the sleepez 10000 that makes is ok & slightly comfy, but hardly worth $1550

3:" FBM memory foam 15 ILD , 5.5lbs topper
2.8 Latex medium 30-32 ILD
2.8 Latex firm 38-40 ILD
2.8 Latex x-firm 44 ILD

 

[ericgl]

I would check with Shawn about the advisability of trading your extra firm layer for a soft layer. I find that latex is supportive even when the ILD is low (unlike memory foam).

 

[Lynn2006]

Novahelp, I would ask Shawn to change the bottom two firm and extra firm layers for two medium ILD layers. I know before I got any 44 ILD's here, my bed was too soft and I was amazed at the difference between a 36 ILD and a 44 ILD. So I would return the 44 ILD and maybe the 38 ILD and get all 32 ILD's in your case.
I like a firm bed so that configuration would be too soft for me. For myself I am finding the new medium soft (wish it was very soft instead) 1.5" topper is not good for me since it is too firm right next to my body and I have to keep it on a 44 ILD to be somewhat comfortable since over a 36 ILD it is so uncomfortable with too much thickness. If it was very soft (my fault since Dave at FloBeds.com asked me what I wanted and I had no idea what the ILD on my 1" overstock topper was), I would sink in despite being only about 100 lbs and have some cushion but still feel the 36 ILD underneath me with the two 44 ILD's. I am going to go upstairs right now and put my 1" topper back on over the 36 ILD over two 44 ILD's to get to the way I was comfortable before. I just did not like the fact that the overstock 1" topper was falling apart. If this is perfect again for me, I will call Dave to ask him to get me a 1" very soft Talalay Latex Topper since I gave back my 2" Talalay latex topper since it was too soft for me. We have the opposite problem with me liking my beds very firm but with a little cushion. Due to my car accident and hurting my back and neck, Dave said he'd give me more time to try out the topper he was going to send me. That is great customer service. MY bed was at first too soft and I needed to do so many latex layers exhanges and I was amazed that I liked my bed so firm. But now I am finding out I like very very soft toppers that are thin.
But I heard Shawn at SleepEz..com gives good customer service also. Find out how many latex layer exchanges you can do. Hopefully Shawn will exchange two of the latex layers for you.

 

[Lynn2006]

After changing the topper, I found out that the 1.5" latex topper is a 22-23 ILD and not too firm but just not as soft as my 17 ILD latex topper. Maybe I needed a 15 ILD or maybe I just need to try the 1" topper tonight and tomorrow try the 1.5" topper over a 44 ILD over a 36ILD over a 44 ILD to see if this will be good since I just tired the 1.5" ILD over the floor and it was so comfortable. I had my bed so comfortable and perfect before my car accident. Now with 5 herniated disks, I have to reconfigure it a bit. I am glad I at least can do this with my zippered cover. If I had a bed that I was stuck with the configuration, I would now be trying different toppers and hoping my bed would be too firm and not too soft since it is easier to soften a bed than make it firmer.
Novahelp, do you have two sides of the bed or one big latex piece that covers both sides of the bed? If you have the split cores like I do, you could try the soft over a medium over a medium over a firm on your side to see if this would work. I love having split layers allowing me more combinations.

 

[novahelp]

Lynn2006 wrote:
Novahelp, I would ask Shawn to change the bottom two firm and extra firm layers for two medium ILD layers. I know before I got any 44 ILD's here, my bed was too soft and I was amazed at the difference between a 36 ILD and a 44 ILD. So I would return the 44 ILD and maybe the 38 ILD and get all 32 ILD's in your case.
I like a firm bed so that configuration would be too soft for me. For myself I am finding the new medium soft (wish it was very soft instead) 1.5" topper is not good for me since it is too firm right next to my body and I have to keep it on a 44 ILD to be somewhat comfortable since over a 36 ILD it is so uncomfortable with too much thickness. If it was very soft (my fault since Dave at FloBeds.com asked me what I wanted and I had no idea what the ILD on my 1" overstock topper was), I would sink in despite being only about 100 lbs and have some cushion but still feel the 36 ILD underneath me with the two 44 ILD's. I am going to go upstairs right now and put my 1" topper back on over the 36 ILD over two 44 ILD's to get to the way I was comfortable before. I just did not like the fact that the overstock 1" topper was falling apart. If this is perfect again for me, I will call Dave to ask him to get me a 1" very soft Talalay Latex Topper since I gave back my 2" Talalay latex topper since it was too soft for me. We have the opposite problem with me liking my beds very firm but with a little cushion. Due to my car accident and hurting my back and neck, Dave said he'd give me more time to try out the topper he was going to send me. That is great customer service. MY bed was at first too soft and I needed to do so many latex layers exhanges and I was amazed that I liked my bed so firm. But now I am finding out I like very very soft toppers that are thin.
But I heard Shawn at SleepEz..com gives good customer service also. Find out how many latex layer exchanges you can do. Hopefully Shawn will exchange two of the latex layers for you.

Thanks for the thoughts. The 10,000 unit only has 3 latex layers, the top memory foam layer I added after the awful sleep I got last night. The memory foam makes this bed tolerable while I wait to talk with shawn. I did call Shawn today, left message and have not yet heard back.

 

[novahelp]

Lynn2006 wrote:
After changing the topper, I found out that the 1.5" latex topper is a 22-23 ILD and not too firm but just not as soft as my 17 ILD latex topper. Maybe I needed a 15 ILD or maybe I just need to try the 1" topper tonight and tomorrow try the 1.5" topper over a 44 ILD over a 36ILD over a 44 ILD to see if this will be good since I just tired the 1.5" ILD over the floor and it was so comfortable. I had my bed so comfortable and perfect before my car accident. Now with 5 herniated disks, I have to reconfigure it a bit. I am glad I at least can do this with my zippered cover. If I had a bed that I was stuck with the configuration, I would now be trying different toppers and hoping my bed would be too firm and not too soft since it is easier to soften a bed than make it firmer.
Novahelp, do you have two sides of the bed or one big latex piece that covers both sides of the bed? If you have the split cores like I do, you could try the soft over a medium over a medium over a firm on your side to see if this would work. I love having split layers allowing me more combinations.

I have it split sides. I guess I could try:

Medium
Medium
Firm

When I get Shawn to call me back I assume he will send me their split soft 22 ILD layer. Hopefully the soft can make this thing comfortable!