For those with latex mattresses with split core layers for individual comfort on each side - is there ever an issue with the seam between the two sides? Do the pieces ever move around on you, does it open up a little, or can you feel the seam when lying on it?
Latex split layers
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Yeah, I thought you two were maybe clones! I'm a single sleeper, too, so I'm interested in this question, as well. At first take, it seems like it would certainly be at least a bit noticeable to have a split down the middle. At least, I can't imagine it not being noticeable, to at least some extent, and maybe having a tight mattress cover would make some difference on how closely the two pieces can be abutted and maintained in full contact....But we'll see what people have to say....
The latex pieces fit so tight together and their is a 1" topper over my latex cores, that I never notice the split cores at all and I sleep alone and switch sides since one side is slighter firmer so sometimes I want firmer and sometimes softer despite the cores being the same ILD since the ILD is just an average firmess and one side I put the higher average firmness of each core and the other side the lower number on the average for the very firm ILD's.
I am the type of person that can't wear a shoe if I can feel a thread in it. I am a very light and picky sleeper and I can't feel any difference but I also have similar ILD's on both sides of my bed but the cores are so tight against each other and latex molds to the other core.
I am the type of person that can't wear a shoe if I can feel a thread in it. I am a very light and picky sleeper and I can't feel any difference but I also have similar ILD's on both sides of my bed but the cores are so tight against each other and latex molds to the other core.
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So Lynn, it sounds like your latex topper is not split but the core is, and you sleep on one side or the other. I can understand how a split down th emiddle wouldn't matter too much iif someone is not trying to sleep in the middle of the bed, instead of one of the sides.
I believe one of the original questioners was asking about a split core, and the second was asking about a split topper (or cover), right?
Would it make a difference if a split goes all the way through, vs if it's only split in the topper, vs only split in the core, for people trying to sleep in the middle of the bed? (assuming there is not a difference in density between the corresponding sides, which would, of course, make a difference trying to sleep in the middle, with or without a split)....
Nothing like having the whole bed to yourself!
I believe one of the original questioners was asking about a split core, and the second was asking about a split topper (or cover), right?
Would it make a difference if a split goes all the way through, vs if it's only split in the topper, vs only split in the core, for people trying to sleep in the middle of the bed? (assuming there is not a difference in density between the corresponding sides, which would, of course, make a difference trying to sleep in the middle, with or without a split)....
Nothing like having the whole bed to yourself!
I have slept in the middle of my bed since I am going through the change and I never know when I will have a hot flash so then I will move out of the spot I was sleeping on, change my top sheet and sometimes just sleep int he middle of the bed and not just on the other side since I have my alarm on the side closer tot he bathroom and I like to be able to get out of the bed on that side and I don't like sleeping closer to the windows since no matter what I do to darken the blinds, the light from the lights on the street and the ligth from outside in the morning seeps through the sides.
I did say both sides of my bed are similar so maybe there will be a noticable split if both sides are very different in the softness or hardness of the latex cores and there is no topper over them. I tried sleeping without a topper but then I could not get the bed into a comfort level that I liked with it being to hard or too soft. The 1" topper worked for me giving me the little bit of cushion I needed with very firm support underneath. This is the most comfortable bed I ever had. I hope to meet a partner one day who feels the same.
I did say both sides of my bed are similar so maybe there will be a noticable split if both sides are very different in the softness or hardness of the latex cores and there is no topper over them. I tried sleeping without a topper but then I could not get the bed into a comfort level that I liked with it being to hard or too soft. The 1" topper worked for me giving me the little bit of cushion I needed with very firm support underneath. This is the most comfortable bed I ever had. I hope to meet a partner one day who feels the same.
P.S. The reason I don't always sleep in the middle of the bed is I like to be able to reach for a tissue if I need it or a sip of water and I can't reach the night stands unless I sleep on the end of the bed but as I said, have slept in the middle of the bed and when I do that, I place the tissue box on the bed to be near it.
For those interested, per a conversation with SleepEZ, they recommend a 1-piece top layer if you choose their stretch cover instead of the quilted cover. This would be to eliminate feeling the seam, because they say there wouldnt be any movement of layers being rubber, and heavy, etc.
From my disgruntled opinion of complete latex beds, you can completely feel the seam.
With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it. You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.
In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.
I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.
Chris
With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it. You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.
In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.
I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.
Chris
texfire wrote:
From my disgruntled opinion of complete latex beds, you can completely feel the seam.
With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it. You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.
In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.
I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.
Chris
Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.
Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?
Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.
Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!
From my disgruntled opinion of complete latex beds, you can completely feel the seam.
With the convoluted topper and the fabric covering, you can even frequently see the seam. You lay on one side of it, it pushes that latex core down, and it 'sticks' up against the one next to it. You get off the bed, it stays stuck, and you have a distinct line running down your bed.
In my opinion, I feel like I 'fall' towards the middle of the bed where the cores come together down the middle.
I hate it and have been trying to tolerate it for almost two years now.
Chris
Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.
Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?
Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.
Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!
proof1st wrote:
Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.
Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?
Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.
Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!
Hi,
I do have a Flobed with the convoluted topper over the split cores. My cover is whatever comes standard that zips around the edge. It's fine quality, but not thick.
I've talked to Flobed about it and they recommended I use Spray adhesive to laminate the two cores together. I tried it. It's unwiedly and difficult to get lined up properly so I ended up not with 100% adhesion. It didn't help much and when I re-opened my bed, parts had come apart and parts were still stuck together. I'm sure I did a sub-par job of putting them together... but you can't do it in the bed, cause adhesive gets on the layers underneath, so I tried to do it on the kitchen floor and protect the floor with paper and it was just a mess.
I'm unaware there is a 3 inch solid layer I can lay across (at least in a CA King). So I haven't tried that.
This bothers me but moreso that I can't find the combo of layers that works for me. I have med/firm/superfirm layers and several of each and can't get something that doesn't hurt my low back but also feels comfortable to lay on, back and side. At the moment, I'm firm and trying to go softer. Now I'm F/F/SF and will probably switch to M/F/SF, although last time I did M/F/F it hurt my back. Nevertheless Flobeds has been responsive to listening to me bitch and they've offered suggestions. Unfortunately, every time I go to a hotel, I feel much better at first and in the morning in the hotel bed. It's either real, or I have a psychological problem which is affecting my judgement. I think it's about to be unsolvable, so I'm looking into innerspring beds, or combo innerspring with latex. However, they don't talk much about those here and I can't find any good place to separate the good from the bad (if there is good).
Chris
Chris - sorry to hear of your experience - but thanks for posting. Its funny that Ive searched this forum for info on the very issue you are having, yet never found your previous posts. I was suprised that more people dont have a problem with the seam, I assumed it had to be a problem sometimes.
Sounds like you have a FloBed with the convoluted topper over the split cores - and you have a quilted cover?
Have you tried a full 3" layer in one piece over the split cores? Maybe that would help, being more substatial than the convoluted layer. I think that is basically what sleepez recommended when using a stretchy cover - the top layer, full thickness, with no seam.
Thanks again for posting - your experience needs to be added to the mix of factors for those considering a split core mattress. Hope you can find a solution!
Hi,
I do have a Flobed with the convoluted topper over the split cores. My cover is whatever comes standard that zips around the edge. It's fine quality, but not thick.
I've talked to Flobed about it and they recommended I use Spray adhesive to laminate the two cores together. I tried it. It's unwiedly and difficult to get lined up properly so I ended up not with 100% adhesion. It didn't help much and when I re-opened my bed, parts had come apart and parts were still stuck together. I'm sure I did a sub-par job of putting them together... but you can't do it in the bed, cause adhesive gets on the layers underneath, so I tried to do it on the kitchen floor and protect the floor with paper and it was just a mess.
I'm unaware there is a 3 inch solid layer I can lay across (at least in a CA King). So I haven't tried that.
This bothers me but moreso that I can't find the combo of layers that works for me. I have med/firm/superfirm layers and several of each and can't get something that doesn't hurt my low back but also feels comfortable to lay on, back and side. At the moment, I'm firm and trying to go softer. Now I'm F/F/SF and will probably switch to M/F/SF, although last time I did M/F/F it hurt my back. Nevertheless Flobeds has been responsive to listening to me bitch and they've offered suggestions. Unfortunately, every time I go to a hotel, I feel much better at first and in the morning in the hotel bed. It's either real, or I have a psychological problem which is affecting my judgement. I think it's about to be unsolvable, so I'm looking into innerspring beds, or combo innerspring with latex. However, they don't talk much about those here and I can't find any good place to separate the good from the bad (if there is good).
Chris
Well I know you can get the seamless layers in that size, if you want to try that route (they can be pricey in Cal King):
http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156
http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK
And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.
Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you. I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.
http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156
http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK
And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.
Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you. I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.
proof1st wrote:
Well I know you can get the seamless layers in that size, if you want to try that route (they can be pricey in Cal King):
http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156
http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK
And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.
Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you. I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.
When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where? As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying. There's a cost (discounted though it is). The question is how much to keep spending...
Chris
Well I know you can get the seamless layers in that size, if you want to try that route (they can be pricey in Cal King):
http://www.sleepez.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/27/products_id/156
http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/product/TX-02-CK
And of course Flobeds has the components of their mattresses - even if they don't normally do a non-split core, their suppliers make them, so they can get them - I would try to keep working with Flobeds.
Flobeds Medium is 28 ILD, so there is room to go softer. Have you tried a soft top layer? - and I dont mean the convoluted - I would disregard that since its not helping you. I would ask Flobeds to send you a soft 19 ILD 3" layer with no seam. They say they work with you till youre happy - and for the money you spend they should.
When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where? As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying. There's a cost (discounted though it is). The question is how much to keep spending...
Chris
texfire wrote:
When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where? As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying. There's a cost (discounted though it is). The question is how much to keep spending...
Chris
I was referring to the 3" layer under the convoluted layer, assuming your bed is set up as I understand it - with three 3" layers and the convuluted on top. I dont know what youve tried already, but it sounded like you had medium and firmer to work with. Maybe the pressure point relief of a full 3" of soft beneath the convoluted would help.
When you say 'soft top layer', do you mean replacing the convoluted or putting it where? As for working with me, they are, but it's not like I'm getting free components to keep trying. There's a cost (discounted though it is). The question is how much to keep spending...
Chris
I was referring to the 3" layer under the convoluted layer, assuming your bed is set up as I understand it - with three 3" layers and the convuluted on top. I dont know what youve tried already, but it sounded like you had medium and firmer to work with. Maybe the pressure point relief of a full 3" of soft beneath the convoluted would help.
proof1st wrote:
For those with latex mattresses with split core layers for individual comfort on each side - is there ever an issue with the seam between the two sides? Do the pieces ever move around on you, does it open up a little, or can you feel the seam when lying on it?
You may feel the seam if the 2 sides are of different ILD's. Personally I just avoid laying in the middle where the seam is. ;-D
I've use zoned latex - latex pieces cut into thirds for my feet, lumbar and shoulders - and never felt the seams were a problem. They move a little from time to time but unless it's right where you are putting the weight of your shoulder or butt or such, you are not likely to feel it. Obviously some do feel it but I think most do not.
For those with latex mattresses with split core layers for individual comfort on each side - is there ever an issue with the seam between the two sides? Do the pieces ever move around on you, does it open up a little, or can you feel the seam when lying on it?
You may feel the seam if the 2 sides are of different ILD's. Personally I just avoid laying in the middle where the seam is. ;-D
I've use zoned latex - latex pieces cut into thirds for my feet, lumbar and shoulders - and never felt the seams were a problem. They move a little from time to time but unless it's right where you are putting the weight of your shoulder or butt or such, you are not likely to feel it. Obviously some do feel it but I think most do not.