Need Advice Between 2 S&F Mattresses

[ftlee20723]

I need to purchase one of these mattresses this week and could use some advice on with one to choose. The 2 are:
Cadbury Plush Queen: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc...ng=en-US&Sp=C&hierPath=93*1924*67412*&topnav=
Newgate Luxury Plush Queen: http://www.sleepys.com/webapp/wcs/s...014&attrValue=Queen&catalogId=10602&langId=-1

I had my mind made up to purchase the Cadbury but, I am worried that the bed only has a 504 coil density as opposed to the Newgate which has a 825 coil density. Should I be concerned with this? Will the bed with more coils last longer?

Thanks,
Frank

 

[st3v3k4hn]

On most beds, the cheap soft foam in the topper compresses long before the springs give out. So if you think the bed feels ok, the springs are probably ok.
That said, I think both of those beds wil have too much cheap soft foam in them (couldn't actually tell the exact construction, but most people here don't like to see more than 1" of cheap soft foam). By cheap soft foam I mean any non-latex foam. Cheap foams feel great in the store but quickly compress. So try to find beds with mostly latex over the springs, with very little non-latex foam.

 

[bertie]

Just to confirm st3v3k4hn's warning, we purchased the Meadow Hill Luxury Plush mattress from Costco about 4 months ago. Unfortunately, the built-in foam topper is already showing signs of permanent compression, and the comfort level has deteriorated rapidly. In only 4 months! Needless to say, we're pretty disappointed. If you have your heart set on an innerspring mattress, I would definitely heed st3v3k4hn's advice and either go with one that has a real latex topper (not "smart latex"), or look for a quality, basic mattress WITHOUT a bunch of cheap foam on the top, and buy a topper separately (latex or memory foam - whatever you prefer). If you buy a latex topper, you should be good to go for many years. On the other hand, if you prefer a memory foam or poly topper, then when it starts to deteriorate you can just buy a new topper and hang on to your perfectly good spring mattress, rather than face getting a whole new getup.
Of course, the benefit of purchasing from Costco is their warranty, which makes for a very low-risk investment. On the other hand, I'd rather be sleeping well these days and not having to deal with the hassle of returning a bed and deciding on a new one.

 

[ftlee20723]

Neither one of the two beds that I am trying to choose from have a pillow-top or euro-top so, does your advice change?
Here are the specs for the Cadbury:
Luxurious Knit Cover
FlameGuard™ High Loft Fiber
1" Hypersoft®
1.5" x .5" Convoluted Hypersoft®
2" Infinilux® with VRT™
1.57" Smart Latex™
1" HD SuperSoft Foam
416 Foam Encased,
5T - 12.75 Gauge Innerspring Unit

Here are the specs for the Newgate:
High Loft Fiber
1" Hypersoft
1" Hypersoft
1" HD SuperSoft Foam
1" HD SuperSoft Foam w/VRT

 

[sandman]

Both look like they have enough polyurethane foam that can give out over time. So, frankly I would not have a high degree of confidence in either one.
I would not worry too much about the springs giving out, the foam will give out first. At least Costco has a 100% return policy. I think you could even return it after 6 months if there is a problem. So, if I was undecided, I would prefer to buy from Costco.

 

[bertie]

Costco mattress for sure, based solely on return policy. Costco will provide a full refund at any time if you become dissatisfied. Sleepy's will leave you high and dry if you start to have problems after their limited warranty period. Although neither mattress is advertised as a "pillow-top", it looks like both have plenty of poly-foam. I wouldn't worry too much about coil density. My personal impression of coil density is that it is a metric that has been exploited by the marketing industry, much like thread-count in sheets. Consumers are told more is always better...but in my opinion, that concept is mostly a hoax. I think a 504 coil density is perfectly sufficient, in and of itself.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck with whatever mattress you decide on.

 

[ftlee20723]

bertie - do you know how long you have to exchange it (90-days)?

Frank

 

[bertie]

Here's Costco's return policy:
http://shop.costco.com/en/Customer-Service/Returns.aspx
Which I read as a money back guarantee if you become unsatisfied with the mattress at any time (much like LLBean's policy). I'll be returning our Costco mattress (4 months old) within the next week or so - I'll update on how it goes.

 

[bertie]

Just an update, as promised (albeit a bit late)...
We were able to return our 6-month old mattress to Costco without any hassle. They picked it up at our house, and even covered return shipping. Although we were hugely disappointed with the Sealy mattress we bought there, Costco's return policy is truly exceptional. We'll be replacing it with an all-latex mattress shortly...