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Just purchased a King Koil - Cool Nights latex mattress and both my husband and I feel like it felt much less firm in the store. My gut was telling me not to make the purchase, but my husband was waking up in pain every morning. We were sleeping on a Simmons pillow top Back Supporter. We decided latex was the way to go. I thought we should go the DIY route or buy a more expensive "all latex" model....but here we are. I know the KK has a non latex foam core and lots of latex on top, we bought a higher end model that has more latex in it but still... Now I'm thinking I need to soften this KK up. Will a laytex topper help? Can someone recommed a topper model, latex or otherwise? I am so disappointed so far with this purchase. Thanks. |
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cloud9 wrote: I briefly had a SleepEZ mattress too-- nicely constructed, beautiful LI latex--but no matter how I configured it I was so uncomfortable I just couldn't sleep on it. Either the mattress felt so hard my body ached just from lying on it or it was so soft I had no back support and my back hurt in other ways. I would lie awake for hours before I fell asleep out of pure exhaustion, and after two hours I would wake up in pain, tossing and turning, unable to fall asleep again. Sometime I would get up and tear the bed apart rearranging the cores trying to get some relief..xxx... .After the SleepEZ mattress I went back to an innerspring, but today's innerspring mattresses are more like PU foam mattresses with a built in box spring that sits on a solid foundation. They just don't provide the same kind of support the old flippable mattresses did.
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People say that latex doesn't sag, but I had a Talalay mattress that did. Looked okay, but my low back was in pain. I don't really like the feel of latex, feels boingy to me. It is a serious business to purchase a new bed these days. I have actually lost count of how many I've gone through in the last ten years. There is no connection between what I've paid to the length of time they've lasted. If I went with a name brand, I would have probably gotten a Sealy. But I didn't because they own S & F and did not honor any warranty on a new bed I bought. Foam went flat and my back ached inside of three months. Shop around. Try to find an independent place that makes beds, perhaps. At least you can go back and tweak the insides if it isn't quite right. Kait |
| My Talalay Latex bed from FloBeds is very firm and has no bounce. I have a 1" soft topper over two 37 ILD Extra Firm for FloBeds over a 46 ILD Super Firm latex core over a slat box that to me is very comfortable. But it did take me awhile playing with latex cores to get this comfort level but to me it was worth it. Everyone's backs are different and I know anything softer I could not sleep on and too firm hurts also I have learned. |
| 2 inch topper came in today from FBM. We took off the other two toppers and just have the laytex topper on. We'll see how this goes. |
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After three nights now with the latex topper, we really like it. It could be just a tad softer and I think we will put the pillow top topper back on and see if that feels even better. I still regret buying the King Koil...live and learn I guess. I do think that this will be the last mattress we buy for a very long time and I guess that's a good thing. |
| TXMichelle, I am so glad that the latex topper is helping and the bed feels better. I lived for to many years with the hardest Posteurpedic bed with no topper and I turned from side to side all night feeling that it was normal but I guess it was my body's way to get off the pressure points. Now I learned that I like a little cushion that is latex under very firm support. Before I bought my FloBed, I learned this by trying to sleep on the floor and finding out I needed more cushion which I got from the natural latex topper I bought over the Internet. It helped me decide that Latex was probably right for me especially since all of my life I have slept on a natural latex pillow due to my allergies. |
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Well, I am back to being miserable. We put the pillow top topper back on because I still need just a bit more softness and now I feel like I've been run over by a truck. Bed feels pretty comfy when I go to sleep except laying on my side which has hurt my shoulder from the beginning. I'm thinking now maybe I need a more supportive pillow. I wish we had NEVER bought this bed. :( |
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TXMichelle wrote: Well, I am back to being miserable. We put the pillow top topper back on because I still need just a bit more softness and now I feel like I've been run over by a truck. Bed feels pretty comfy when I go to sleep except laying on my side which has hurt my shoulder from the beginning. I'm thinking now maybe I need a more supportive pillow. I wish we had NEVER bought this bed. :( My suggestion is that you try different toppers. There are many ILDs (firmnesses) of latex, so try some softer or harder. Try 1", try 2". Try 2 X 1" - one softer, one firmer. Try it with the firm on bottom, try it with the firm on top. Since you and your husband are different weights, if you have a King, you can buy twin toppers for just your side, and experiment on just your side til your heart's content. If he also wants a topper, you can still do them individually. Two toppers side by side tend to stay put, so this allows you to experiment with different toppers on each side. Try zoning: Get 2 different one inch thick toppers: one firmer, one softer. Cut each one into thirds, upper body, middle and lower body. Now you can mix and match. You can for example put 2 soft one-inch layers for your shoulder (top third) then you can put the 2 x 1" firm layers under your midsection and the other two at your feet. The lower third is a "free zone" because it doesn't really matter what you put there, in my experience. You can also of course try putting one firmer over one softer layer in the middle, or vice versa. Having the two 1" toppers cut into thirds gives you a lot of room to experiment. Use an electric meat carving knife to cut them, it's easy as pie, they cut like a hot knife through butter. You can also try buying one soft latex 1" topper and one soft memory foam 1" topper and that also gives you a lot of choices. Good luck! |
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It's just too darn complicated for me. We already spent a small fortune on the bed itself and three different toppers. I already took the 1" foam topper back. I would rather just sleep on the old bed which is upstairs versus ordering and returning toppers and dismanteling the bed every time we try something new. This bed purchase was the biggest $3000 mistake we ever made. Actually it's the only $3000 mistake we ever made. |
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TXMichelle wrote: It's just too darn complicated for me. We already spent a small fortune on the bed itself and three different toppers. I already took the 1" foam topper back. I would rather just sleep on the old bed which is upstairs versus ordering and returning toppers and dismanteling the bed every time we try something new. This bed purchase was the biggest $3000 mistake we ever made. Actually it's the only $3000 mistake we ever made. Suit yourself, but I think you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. There is nothing complicated about buying 2 one-inch toppers and cutting them into thirds then mixing and matching them on your bed to try to get comfort. Sounds to me like you are happy enough with your situation that you don't feel the need to remedy it, or else you're just being lazy. |