Greeting mattress experts and lurkers, I am a once-a-decade mattress buyer in need of assistance. Can anyone provide input for the Serta Icomfort foam mattress line? Specifically, I'm interested in the Revolution model king size. My initial search led me towards the Tempurpdic Rhapsody. However, many reviews suggest Tempurpedic's sleep "hotter" than spring or other foam mattresses. My wife is furnace so I dare not bring a mattress home which amplifies that issue. So, my next focus was the Simmons ComforPedic. My wife laid on every model and said they were "too springy" compared to the Tempurpedic and the iComfort. So we are down to one option right now, the iComfort. What I'm asking for help with is advice and comparison. The iComfort line of Serta is very, very new and this is possibly why there is no data or opinions on the internet. My heart is not set on the Revolution for $2,000 and I am genuinely interested in hearing advice and comments even if that information leads away from iComfort completely. Thoughts? Much appreciated, |
Nice plug for Serta ( any affiliation?). Costco sells this bed for a lot cheaper. The maker of Icomfort makes the same bed for Costco (Sleep innovations). Look at the law label of both beds. It'll say 'Made by Sleep Innovations'. Costcos return policy is a lot better too when you decide to return it. Hassle free. Hope that doesn't ruin anyone's day. It's the exact same gel memory foam as the toppers that costco sells also. It compresses in short order. I have a friend who likes to replace their's every few months from costco. |
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Ok, here's a question for the last two posters. Before I actually ask the question, here is my situation...I am currently looking to buy a memory foam mattress and after doing a fair amount of reading, I have narrowed my choices to three brands: the Serta iComfort, the Costco Novaform Gel memory foam, and a Dynasty Mattress 12" memory foam (Dynasty Mattress appears to be a cheaper alternative to the Tempurpedic and gets excellent reviews on Amazon). Now common sense dictates that if the iComfort is indeed a rebranded Novaform and both mattresses are made by the exact same company (Sleep Innovations), then I would obviously choose the Novaform over the iComfort and save several hundred dollars while getting the exact same mattress. Having said that, I decided to visit a few mattress stores to look at the iComfort in person and check out the labels. All of the iComfort labels stated that the mattresses were made by Serta, NOT Sleep Innovations. I didn't see any information anywhere on the labels to indicate that Sleep Innovations had anything to do with the mattress. So where did you guys find that information? I would prefer to spend no more than several hundred dollars on a good quality memory foam mattress that'll last at least several years. If the iComfort is indeed a repackaged Novaform, then my choice will be narrowed down to the Novaform vs. the Dynasty Mattress. I'd appreciate any feedback or advice! |
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First off, Serta doesn't manufacture any of their foam. They outsource it from a number of foam manufacturers (As do probably 99% of bedding companies). The only bedding company's that I'm familiar with that make their own foam are Sealys latex, Tempurpedic and latex international (I'm sure there are more). Also, it seems foam manufacturers are always making the best foam they've ever created every couple of years. Tempurpedic is the only one that haven't changed their foam since they've introduced them. Sure they can make it more or less dense, but the ingredients remains the same. If it's not broke why fix it. Maybe Serta got smart and figured out people can read lables and realize they're comparing apples to apples and changed up their lables. I don't know. What I do know is the Icomfort sample I got, is the exact same stuff as Costcos toppers. As far as I'm concerned a warranty really has no bearing on how long a mattress will hold up. They'll get out of a warranty problem somehow. Heck, what do I know? It's all so confusing. |
Thanks again for all the info, guys...I've definitely narrowed down my choices and I'm between the iComfort Insight and the Novaform Gel. Of course, I'm leaning heavily towards the Novaform since it appears it's virtually an identical mattress to the iComfort. From what I've been able to gather, here are the chief differences between the Novaform Gel and iComfort: iComfort Insight: 2.75" gel memory foam, 6" ComfortLast foam core; total mattress height of 8.75"; 25-year warranty Novaform Gel: 2.5" gel memory foam, 2.5" air channel foam, 7" base foam; total mattress height of 12"; 20-year warranty
Overall, at least on paper, the iComfort advantages are a slightly thicker gel foam and longer warranty by 5 years. On the other hand, the Novaform advantages are cost and a thicker mattress (by a full 4 inches), although the gel foam isn't as thick and the warranty isn't as long.
I sent an e-mail to Advanced Urethane Technologies to request info and see if they are the same manufacturer of both the iComfort and Novaform gel lines, and I am hoping for a response. If I get one, I'll post an update here. Now here's where things get a little tough...I have a local mattress company here willing to give me the iComfort Insight full mattress, foundation, free delivery and setup, AND 2 free Tempurpedic Symphony pillows for $1,099. If I get the Novaform, I am looking at $475 for the mattress, $250 for a Tempurpedic foundation (which seems a LOT sturdier than a box spring), about $150 for the 2 Tempurpedic pillows, and about $40 for a Luna waterproof mattress protector. The total Novaform package cost would be about $915 as opposed to the $1,099 for the iComfort package (which is most likely excluding sales tax). Of course, the Novaform package would NOT include the delivery and setup and I tend to be a little bit clumsy, so I would be nervous about possibly breaking the Tempurpedic foundation while trying to set it up.
So in light of this, I'm definitely thinking the Novaform might have a SLIGHT edge in overall value over the iComfort. What do you guys think? Has anyone here had personal experience with the Novaform gel mattress compared to the iComfort? This message was modified May 27, 2011 by a moderator
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I read this thread prior to buying my Serta Icomfort Revolution and after owning the bed for 5 days now, I can say that I am very happy with my purchase. For those people looking for objective data on the bed, I hope that you will find this thread helpful for I was very close to buying a Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe (also strongly considered Sealy - Embody). I decided to try the Serta Icomfort because of the full replacement warranty if I did not like the bed after 30 days and the dealer that I bought it from also sold Termpurpedic Cloud Luxe. My History 5 Days of Results of Serta Icomfort Revolution Note: I only considered after a month of looking 3 memory foam manufacturers. Sealy (Embody), Tempurpedic (Cloud) and Serta (Icomfort). The Sealy also appeared to be a good choice for less money and there are multiple reviews on the matress. The Sealy Embody claims to address the "hot bed" issue. Objective internet reviews show that their attempt did not address the issue adequately; however, the matress was rated very well. I only chose the Tempurpedic second because of objective internet ratings and my parents own one that they were happy with. |
okay guys.. so the serta icomfort is made by....... (you guessed it) SERTA MATTRESS COMPANY. Not sleep innovations or anyone else. The Serta Icomfort boast a no break in peorid, 12x more breathble, sleeps cooler, superior pressure relief, 120 night risk free trial, 25 year warranty. And the outer cover of the icomfort is veryyy nice. And at about 1/3 cost of a tempurpedic. The sleep inovations gel memory foam is not the same as the serta with only 10% of gel instead of the 30% with the Icomfort. I read all about the costco memory foam and went to a icomfort dealer to get the facts and differences. Even on the law tag it says made by "serta mattress company" NOT SLEEP INOVATIONS so dont be fooled by the liars on here!! Please don't believe what others are saying! Go to an icomfort dealer yourself and find out the hard way |
I have some news for the most recent post that iComfort is made by Serta and nobody else. I work in the foam industry. Obviously that previous post does not understand the mattress industry. Serta makes nothing. They purchase materials: innersprings, adjustable bases, foams, fabrics from other companies. They then assemble those pieces together to make the product. The point being that iComfort is not a unique or new technology, story or otherwise. Been around a while. In fact some ComforPedic (Simmons) already has this and has for years. Nothing new. I give Serta credit for the creative spin, but it is WAY overpriced for what it is. As others have mentioned, Sleep Innovations makes this product for Serta and is BRANDED Serta at Sam's Club. Same product is branded "NovaForm" at Costco. iComfort looks pretty, great story...but the data simply isn't there from what I can find. I don't want to hear it is 30% gel vs 10% gel in NovaForm. That is not accurate. I say the less the better. In fact there is not a single piece of info that we have found to substantiate gel offers any measurable advantage. Gel isn't breathable, it is inconsistent in structure. Take a close look for yourself at the samples in stores. I never felt the difference and was disappointed. Statistics in the industry from what I could gather on Gallup is 10% of all people (no matter the brand) say the product slept warmer. I can't argue with those numbers in my opinion. This product is destined to have breakdown and lack of support from my experience in foam industry. Foam companies are simply trying to sell this product to mattress companies to make money on the gel-making machines they have had for years and have been losing money on. So think twice before settling. Lipstick on a pig....it is still a pig. |
If any foam would break down it would most likely not be the one with gel in it, because of the FACT that is it more resilient and had more support where you need it. If gel is no good then why has it been used for a long time? I take it you don't ride a bike and wear bike gloves with the gel inside? or maybe get soreness on your feet only to find you buys dr.scholles with gel? It may not be breathable standing on its own.. but when its infused with the micro support gel it makes the foam MORE of an open cell structure compaired to tempurpedic/comforpedic/embody by 12% Yes I agree that serta may buy their springs from L&P and use someother materials they did not make themselfs, but the foam bed at costco is not the same as the icomfort because once again the icomfort is NOT made by sleep innovations. The novaform is a cheaper version so people can meet that type of price point, but i assure you 100% that they cut cost in more than a few places. Show me some proof or a link for that matter, for your claim that gel will break down faster! I will be getting a Full sized icomfort insight in the next few weeks and if you can prove to me what yur saying i may reconsider but I feel like i've done actualy research compaired to people who may have just an opinion. Is there any different levels of firmness with the costco? Do they have have boxsprings? Why dont they use the same ammount of gel as icomfort/ with less of the gel foam in there by up to a few inches? Do they sell the novaform at any retail store besides online or costco? I just think the icomfort will be the best if i deside to return for instore credit, or need another comfort level. I have the money, so why not settle for a better product, backed by a better bedding brand so i dont have to sacrifice anything? |